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I was just getting ready to post about this.  I am registered to go.  :D

By the sounds of e-mails I have received, enrollment is down a bit.  I know the time of year is a little tough (being right after the holiday) and funds are tight for some people. But having 5 MLB & 5 MiLB umpires evaluating you and imparting some of their experience is worth it, to me.

Also...Joe West is CONFIRMED to be there.

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Anyone else from MD, DE, or PA going to attend?

:-)

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9 hours ago, SJA said:

Anyone else from MD, DE, or PA going to attend?

:-)

Not MD, DE or PA, but Paul, AKA @th3 will be heading up there with us. Can't wait to see some pitches.Work's been crazy..I need the break!

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I was hoping to have someone to either ride with, or ride with me from this area.

:-(

 

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4 hours ago, gnhbua93 said:

Other States High School umpire should do this type of clinic.

I put one on every year in South Carolina.  Two days (Saturday and Sunday) 8:30 to 4:30 both days.  In the past, I've brought in instructors from MiLBUD (including Dusty Dellinger and Darren Spagnardi), we also had a College World Series vet as an instructor.  All instructors are NCAA Division 1 and/or former MiLB.  We only charge $50.

Feel free to PM if you want to come this year (1/14 and 1/15 in suburban Columbia, SC.)

Finally, SC is usually a hell of a lot warmer in January than NY.  The vast, vast majority of years we go out on to the field for most of the camp.  (But, we have a gymnasium as a back-up and we have a baseball field house for indoor cage work.)

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3 hours ago, lawump said:

I put one on every year in South Carolina.  Two days (Saturday and Sunday) 8:30 to 4:30 both days.  In the past, I've brought in instructors from MiLBUD (including Dusty Dellinger and Darren Spagnardi), we also had a College World Series vet as an instructor.  All instructors are NCAA Division 1 and/or former MiLB.  We only charge $50.

Feel free to PM if you want to come this year (1/14 and 1/15 in suburban Columbia, SC.)

Finally, SC is usually a hell of a lot warmer in January than NY.  The vast, vast majority of years we go out on to the field for most of the camp.  (But, we have a gymnasium as a back-up and we have a baseball field house for indoor cage work.)

Since your good buddy to the North, 'Matlock', has passed away as the official interpreter, who the heck is on site as an interpreter when you start talking all that legal mumbo jumbo, like all those in your chosen profession do, that doesn't make sense worth a hill of beans. Who is the 'umpire jargon for dummies specialist' at this event.

And, do we get to check out how hot it is in Death Valley, since you mention the suburbs.

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Hate to say it , but was disappointed in the clinic, (and I apparently wasn't the only one). No Joe, No Ted. A few MLB shirts, jackets, hats, signed autographs. Trying to find the place was an experience for a lot of the1st timers. Somewhat disorganized, a few conflicting mechanics instruction, and distracting due to youth groups using the "complex" and loose kids running around hitting hockey balls everywhere.

SJA :-(

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Can't disagree. Cage work was rushed, very few pitches each, and, at least for me,very little suggestions on my plate work/mechanics.  Thought they could have done a better job as far as U1 drills at 1B and the DP footwork. Very basic and general  instruction all around.

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@SJA - I was also a bit disappointed. While I always enjoy a day talking to and getting to know other umpires, I am looking for feedback and advanced instruction in a clinic at this stage of my game. I though the cage work wasnt worth much, in that we saw very few pitches and spent most of the time watching from the other end of the cage, w/out the opportunity to really learn from other's sessions. I did like the station that focused on DP footwork and steals of 2nd.  As I said, I had an enjoyable day with some friends from home (NJ) and met some really nice guys from the local area. All of the instructors were gracious with their time (Rod Drake is pretty entertaining) and seemed to enjoy sharing knowledge and stories - but I did not feel like the instruction was up to what I was looking for. 

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Well, I'm glad to see you guys post your honest thoughts also! Too many times, people are afraid to do so, because of getting backlash or criticized for their input. Lets hope others will chime in with their perspective on this event if they attended. CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is good and helps to improve the events in the future.

SJA :-)

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Ya know, the best part of the whole event to me, IMHO, was meeting new umps from everywhere no matter what their level of umping was. I met and talked with some great guys and even had a few laughs about experiences. One fella designed an app called: "You make the call" and can be downloaded from www.umpiresmedia.com. or iTunes. I checked it out and it's challenging :-) I feel like I made some new friends even though we may not meet again unless we all attend the NYSBUA event in the future.

SJA :-)

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47 minutes ago, SJA said:

Ya know, the best part of the whole event to me, IMHO, was meeting new umps from everywhere no matter what their level of umping was. I met and talked with some great guys and even had a few laughs about experiences. One fella designed an app called: "You make the call" and can be downloaded from www.umpiresmedia.com. or iTunes. I checked it out and it's challenging :-) I feel like I made some new friends even though we may not meet again unless we all attend the NYSBUA event in the future.

SJA :-)

The app looks interesting. Too bad I don't have an iPhone.

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3 minutes ago, SJA said:

Not sure, but isn't it available for Android?

When I went to the website I kept getting redirected to iTunes. 

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@Richvee, @th3, @SJA..... I would concur with the sentiments expressed.

There was an inordinate amount of standing around time, which was nice to talk to other umpires, but that was not why I went.

I expected more reps in the cages, as well as more attention and more instruction from the clinicians. Two cages with pitching machines and one with soft toss for approximately 100 umpires is not nearly enough. On the positive side, there were some reps on double play foot work and plays at 1B, and some work on working the wedge.

I don't know that I will be going back to this clinic.

 

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@Kevin_K, I seriously doubt that I will either. . . 11 Hrs. total drive, $105 in fuel, $19.35 for tolls, $210 for stay, $115 for clinic, and $89 for food  . . . total of $538.35 . . . and no Joe as "CONFIRMED" or Ted? . . .

Sorry if I have offended anyone of the NYSBUA, but they asked for feedback at the end of the "clinic"

:-(

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4 minutes ago, SJA said:

$19.35 for tolls

Goodness gracious. We have two toll bridges around here that I can think of; one in West Seattle and one in Tacoma. I went to Florida once and there were tolls everywhere. :shakehead:

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Tolls would have been much more but I knew alternate routes to avoid what I could :-)

ps . . . it's not that tolls were THAT expensive, it is just the addition to other expenses that adds up. :-(

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I know I was one that touted this clinic, especially when Joe was "confirmed" to be there.  I figured since I am in NY and from a NYSBUA chapter, I would try to help increase attendance.

I was disappointed in the overall clinic as well.  I was at the first one in 2013, and it was almost the same layout. Nothing much changed.

I did take the time to fill out the survey at the end. Some of my suggestions are:

1. Cut down on the number of attendees, or make it a 2 day clinic, or both.  Even if the cost increases a bit.  That gives everyone more time for more reps- whether at the cages, on the field, whatever.  Looking at this clinic http://www.umpireschool.com/northwest-classic and what is offered in relation to the cost makes it a much better deal IMO.

2.  They asked about the possibility of moving the date to November.  For me personally, it really doesn't make a difference.  I know there were some from my chapter who had considered attending but being right after the holidays money was tight. When I asked them about doing it in November, they thought that could work better for them.  I don't think changing the month affects the amount/type of instruction, though.

3.  Facilities:  Definitely not the greatest, but better than being outside:).  I agree that the random kids going around hitting hockey balls was distracting.  Having the indoor softball games going on was a hindrance as well.  That was another area that could have been used to split up the groups for training.  If nothing else, maybe use some of those players to set up situations and run through some plays.  Have a group of PU's and BU's, then rotate them.  If the facility needs those games there, then maybe the clinic organizers can find somewhere else.

4. Misc: the Friday night "reception" was a bit lacking.  A few bags of chips, bowls of peanuts, plus a couple 30 packs of beer and some water wasn't what I would have expected.  Lunch wasn't bad (bag lunch with sandwich, chips, cookie and fruit plus a bottle of water).  No 'freebies" other than some MiLB Umpire School magnets and MLB Umpire Camp pins.  Why not a T-shirt?  Again, even if the cost went up a bit to cover better reception fare, some coffee & donuts in the morning at registration, and a T-shirt it would go a long ways as far as perception goes.

When I look at the clips from the COG clinics on Facebook, that is more of what I envision this clinic should be.  I have never attended one, though.

I don't want to disparage those that organized the clinic.  I'm sure - as with a lot of things - it was just a few people trying to put this on.  All the instructors were approachable and willing to talk.  I thought it was good of Rob Drake to show up due to the recent passing of his wife.  Ted Barrett attending the birth of his grandchild instead of the clinic was understandable.  Even Joe being unable to attend due to "union business" was OK with me (I have had to miss things due to attending to union matters at my job).  Rob's impersonation of Joe made up for it:lol:.

I hope that they take everyone's comments/ideas into consideration.  I think that with some tweaks that it could really be something that would be well attended year after year.

@SJA, @Richvee, @th3 and others - I don't think we got a chance to meet during the clinic.  It was good to talk to some umpires form different areas, though.  Maybe another time.

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Question for you guys that attended the Friday night "meet & greet" (HA!) , who was the guy that was in a suit in the back table and all the MiLB umps and Drake ended up there?  . . . just curious . . . (hope if he's on this forum, or reads this, he doesn't take offense) . . . . just don't know, but seemed he was important?

:-?

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Don't know. But Chris Seagal was sitting with us for a while and got up pretty much in mid sentence and joined that table and never came back.

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On 1/10/2017 at 1:22 AM, clawdad said:

I know I was one that touted this clinic, especially when Joe was "confirmed" to be there.  I figured since I am in NY and from a NYSBUA chapter, I would try to help increase attendance.

I was disappointed in the overall clinic as well.  I was at the first one in 2013, and it was almost the same layout. Nothing much changed.

I did take the time to fill out the survey at the end. Some of my suggestions are:

1. Cut down on the number of attendees, or make it a 2 day clinic, or both.  Even if the cost increases a bit.  That gives everyone more time for more reps- whether at the cages, on the field, whatever.  Looking at this clinic http://www.umpireschool.com/northwest-classic and what is offered in relation to the cost makes it a much better deal IMO.

2.  They asked about the possibility of moving the date to November.  For me personally, it really doesn't make a difference.  I know there were some from my chapter who had considered attending but being right after the holidays money was tight. When I asked them about doing it in November, they thought that could work better for them.  I don't think changing the month affects the amount/type of instruction, though.

3.  Facilities:  Definitely not the greatest, but better than being outside:).  I agree that the random kids going around hitting hockey balls was distracting.  Having the indoor softball games going on was a hindrance as well.  That was another area that could have been used to split up the groups for training.  If nothing else, maybe use some of those players to set up situations and run through some plays.  Have a group of PU's and BU's, then rotate them.  If the facility needs those games there, then maybe the clinic organizers can find somewhere else.

4. Misc: the Friday night "reception" was a bit lacking.  A few bags of chips, bowls of peanuts, plus a couple 30 packs of beer and some water wasn't what I would have expected.  Lunch wasn't bad (bag lunch with sandwich, chips, cookie and fruit plus a bottle of water).  No 'freebies" other than some MiLB Umpire School magnets and MLB Umpire Camp pins.  Why not a T-shirt?  Again, even if the cost went up a bit to cover better reception fare, some coffee & donuts in the morning at registration, and a T-shirt it would go a long ways as far as perception goes.

When I look at the clips from the COG clinics on Facebook, that is more of what I envision this clinic should be.  I have never attended one, though.

I don't want to disparage those that organized the clinic.  I'm sure - as with a lot of things - it was just a few people trying to put this on.  All the instructors were approachable and willing to talk.  I thought it was good of Rob Drake to show up due to the recent passing of his wife.  Ted Barrett attending the birth of his grandchild instead of the clinic was understandable.  Even Joe being unable to attend due to "union business" was OK with me (I have had to miss things due to attending to union matters at my job).  Rob's impersonation of Joe made up for it:lol:.

I hope that they take everyone's comments/ideas into consideration.  I think that with some tweaks that it could really be something that would be well attended year after year.

@SJA, @Richvee, @th3 and others - I don't think we got a chance to meet during the clinic.  It was good to talk to some umpires form different areas, though.  Maybe another time.

@clawdad next clinic hang a sign that says Umpire-Empire

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