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2 minutes ago, JDavis225 said:

This is a beauty. Which throat guard is that? I need one for my Wilson Ti in which I chopped the throat guard off. 

The throat guard is an SSK Spyder. I want to know what kind of pads @hckyosgood30 has on there. 

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20 minutes ago, Stk004 said:

The throat guard is an SSK Spyder. I want to know what kind of pads @hckyosgood30 has on there. 

Those throat guards are hard to come by huh? I just searched SSK Spyder on Rakuten and can't find them. Any help? 

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4 minutes ago, JDavis225 said:

Those throat guards are hard to come by huh? I just searched SSK Spyder on Rakuten and can't find them. Any help? 

Hard to come by indeed. Someone on site here might have one to sell.

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On 12/8/2016 at 10:28 PM, hckyosgood30 said:

My project is now done. 

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Nothing Personal but it is hideous!

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1 hour ago, JaxRolo said:

Nothing Personal but it is hideous!

I'm with you, Jax... My heart is quivering. There goes another unicorn, turned into a plowhorse.

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On ‎12‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 8:07 PM, MadMax said:

The angle is referred to as the "rake".

The Diamond DFM-iX3's chin guard is very gently raked forward because it was intended to hold the single-broad-strap Diamond throat guard, attached at the bottom of the chin guard. When Jorge Posada worked with Nike on the development of what became the Nike Titanium and Steel planform, he expressed that he himself finds throat guards an annoyance. If you look at the first few renditions of the Nike Titanium, especially the one Posada wore, you'll see that the chin guard is significantly taller. In this, it is more of a throat guard extension than a chin guard.

Wilson, of course, followed suit, but raked the chin guard more forward so as to accommodate and allow catchers and umpires to attach throat guards where they were normally attached. Does Nike sell throat guards? Hmmm... Nope. Does Wilson sell throat guards? You bet your sweet accessorized profit margin arse it does.

The DynaLite Titanium has an exceptionally forward-raked chin guard because the Titanium debuted as a partner to another Wilson product – the WestVest Platinum. You know that cushion at the top of the CP's collar? The one that alot of umpires contemplate removing? Yup, the Wilson Titanium's chin guard is raked forward to clear that cushion while the umpire is standing upright, and potentially place an attached throat guard further out, clearing that cushion.

Or could it be - because a catcher is in a totally different position than an umpire? A catcher is taught to roll the chin down (follow the ball in) and that rake being forward allows him to do that. It works great if the catcher doesn't turn his head and blocks the ball like he is taught.

Having caught for many years (before there were throat guards and catchers helmets), we never really thought of the ball getting into the throat, because we did roll up to block it. Most foul balls that I took were generally eye level or higher, because the catcher's head should be near the bottom of the zone. It did open your eyes with a foul ball off the top of the head, without a helmet. If I remember correctly the original throat guard I wore was plastic tied on by strings. Looking back - not the best set-up, but better than nothing.

Umpires tend to get shots in the chin area, because they are at the top of the zone. I don't know how the old NL guys survived when they started wearing in the inside protectors and no throat guards.

There are a few of the MLB Japanese catchers wearing Mizuno masks (I think they are), with no integrated guards, just the attached one. Maybe going back to the old days?

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5 hours ago, Stk004 said:

The throat guard is an SSK Spyder. I want to know what kind of pads @hckyosgood30 has on there. 

 

5 hours ago, JDavis225 said:

Those throat guards are hard to come by huh? I just searched SSK Spyder on Rakuten and can't find them. Any help? 

You can find them on Ebay. But they are around $60-70. And shipped from Japan.

Looks like this one was stripped and powder coated. But in order to do that. They had to cut off the connectors that where there. Which IMO makes it less solid.

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its not a unicorn if you own 3 and got them all for free.... To me its a matter of taste.  I got a 90+ rebound in the throat last year in a D1 series and wasn't happy.  So I played around with a few variations and landed on this and it for me and my chest protector gives me the most protection which is what matters to me.  It doesn't flop around and/or clang since its secured with silicone straps crossed and tightened down.  It is an SSK spyder but its not powder coated.  Its just been stripped of its covering and given a coke bath to eat away all of the access glue.  This helps match the color of the bars.  If you don't like it then you don't have to wear it.  For me I'm happy and if I'm not I can always go back to my other standard unicorn Nike in the bag!

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4 hours ago, maineump said:

Or could it be - because a catcher is in a totally different position than an umpire? A catcher is taught to roll the chin down (follow the ball in) and that rake being forward allows him to do that. It works great if the catcher doesn't turn his head and blocks the ball like he is taught.

Having caught for many years (before there were throat guards and catchers helmets), we never really thought of the ball getting into the throat, because we did roll up to block it. Most foul balls that I took were generally eye level or higher, because the catcher's head should be near the bottom of the zone. It did open your eyes with a foul ball off the top of the head, without a helmet. If I remember correctly the original throat guard I wore was plastic tied on by strings. Looking back - not the best set-up, but better than nothing.

Umpires tend to get shots in the chin area, because they are at the top of the zone. I don't know how the old NL guys survived when they started wearing in the inside protectors and no throat guards.

There are a few of the MLB Japanese catchers wearing Mizuno masks (I think they are), with no integrated guards, just the attached one. Maybe going back to the old days?

The extended throat guard on the titanium was place there for one purpose, to clear the way for a 4" or 6" extended plastic throat guard.

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11 hours ago, BT_Blue said:

@maineump who are you referring to? I don't remember any MLB catcher going that route. 

Kenji Johjima from the Mariners

Not sure of the brand, but no integrated throat guard on this mask

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48 minutes ago, maineump said:

Kenji Johjima from the Mariners

Not sure of the brand, but no integrated throat guard on this mask

Image result for Kenji Kenji Johjima Johjima

Oh yeah... I remember noticing that in the past. I thinkmthe throat guard is Adidas. You can find a slew of them on EBay.

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On 12/20/2016 at 5:59 PM, maineump said:

Or could it be - because a catcher is in a totally different position than an umpire? A catcher is taught to roll the chin down (follow the ball in) and that rake being forward allows him to do that. It works great if the catcher doesn't turn his head and blocks the ball like he is taught.

Having caught for many years (before there were throat guards and catchers helmets), we never really thought of the ball getting into the throat, because we did roll up to block it. Most foul balls that I took were generally eye level or higher, because the catcher's head should be near the bottom of the zone. It did open your eyes with a foul ball off the top of the head, without a helmet. If I remember correctly the original throat guard I wore was plastic tied on by strings. Looking back - not the best set-up, but better than nothing.

Umpires tend to get shots in the chin area, because they are at the top of the zone. I don't know how the old NL guys survived when they started wearing in the inside protectors and no throat guards.

There are a few of the MLB Japanese catchers wearing Mizuno masks (I think they are), with no integrated guards, just the attached one. Maybe going back to the old days?

"If I remember correctly the original throat guard I wore was plastic tied on by strings"

oh my goodness. you are older than dirt. a waiter at the last supper.

I did not know they would still let you umpire in the northeast with a walker.

Sounds like the Yeager, back when you were macho man.

Now, you got that fortress for protection.

Just take it like a man in the adams apple like Tony Kubeck and keep going.

merry x-mas

 

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5 hours ago, dumbdumb said:

"If I remember correctly the original throat guard I wore was plastic tied on by strings"

oh my goodness. you are older than dirt. a waiter at the last supper.

I did not know they would still let you umpire in the northeast with a walker.

Sounds like the Yeager, back when you were macho man.

Now, you got that fortress for protection.

Just take it like a man in the adams apple like Tony Kubeck and keep going.

merry x-mas

 

LOL - Not older than dirt - I hope :) . Back then, there weren't any out there, and we thought it was cool to get them. I was lucky, never took one to the throat, but got rolled many times times by runners (it was part of the game and I accepted it as such).

I guess that is why I never 'modify' the mask (other than pads), because someone a lot smarter (or richer) than me designed it that way for a reason. Many of the masks have subtle design changes, so I am in the school of "pick what works for you", doesn't matter the brand or cost - if it works- wear it.

 

Merry Christmas to you as well brother .

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Just turned my mask from little league into a respectable backupl1cARfF.jpg

Before

 

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Melted off the rubber coating

 

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After some sanding and chopping off the throat guard.

 

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Pretty easy process, got a paint and primer in 1 spray paint. I will hold onto it as a backup, hope my new Rawlings Ti holds up and this never has to see the field.

Just ordered a new pair of team Wendy pads, so I'll rotate my old pair onto this mask, and add a hanging throat guard.

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Just turned my mask from little league into a respectable backupl1cARfF.jpg

Before

 

F9T3Wuk.jpg

Melted off the rubber coating

 

EnLjCOs.jpg

After some sanding and chopping off the throat guard.

 

wNccNnU.jpg

Pretty easy process, got a paint and primer in 1 spray paint. I will hold onto it as a backup, hope my new Rawlings Ti holds up and this never has to see the field.

Just ordered a new pair of team Wendy pads, so I'll rotate my old pair onto this mask, and add a hanging throat guard.

The bottom still looks bent

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9 minutes ago, Thunderheads said:

The bottom still looks bent

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Yea the welds are off a bit, so one side extends further down than the other.  The frame itself isn't bent, it's just not symmetrical.

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Here is my newest rig! Old-school West Vest Pre Dynalite Lite and I had Tony at Mask-it take the vertical bars out of the chin guard ala the Riddell.

Primer gray with a Clearcoat, Belgard Pads a West Vest harness and a honig's sun screen....

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3 hours ago, Thunderheads said:

Here is my newest rig! Old-school West Vest Pre Dynalite Lite and I had Tony at Mask-it take the vertical bars out of the chin guard ala the Riddell.

Primer gray with a Clearcoat, Belgard Pads a West Vest harness and a honig's sun screen....

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Belgard from where?

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Hi, this is my first on this site. I have been umpiring LL here in NC for a number of years. Just started umpiring middle school and some high school (private, JV) this past year. I have enjoyed using this site as a reference and look forward to posting. 

Anyway, here is a Wilson steel dynalite that I bought new this fall, and it was so heavy compared to my Diamond aluminum masks I almost returned it. I had started off years ago with an old solid wire Wilson and didn't realize how spoiled I had gotten with the Diamonds. But I'm hoping to move into higher level baseball (varsity) and I really like the protection of a steel mask. So long story short, after seeing Mask It on this site, I asked my buddy with a welding shop to strip and powder coat my mask and this is what I have now. The powder coat is smoke chrome color.

I put some black Wilson foam pads on it since this photo and I like the fit a bit better. Anyway, just wanted to share. It is sharp looking (and the labor only cost me a couple of beers!). I may have another done in matte black if I can find a deal on another Wilson.

Michael

ETA: I forgot to mention, the whole point was to try and lighten up the mask. And it did. I would not have worn it as it was, but I couldn't believe how much lighter it was after burning off that rubber coating. It is still a bit heavier than the Diamond, but very comfortable.

wilson mask smoke chrome.jpg

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8 minutes ago, mwest5575 said:

Hi, this is my first on this site. I have been umpiring LL here in NC for a number of years. Just started umpiring middle school and some high school (private, JV) this past year. I have enjoyed using this site as a reference and look forward to posting. 

Anyway, here is a Wilson steel dynalite that I bought new this fall, and it was so heavy compared to my Diamond aluminum masks I almost returned it. I had started off years ago with an old solid wire Wilson and didn't realize how spoiled I had gotten with the Diamonds. But I'm hoping to move into higher level baseball (varsity) and I really like the protection of a steel mask. So long story short, after seeing Mask It on this site, I asked my buddy with a welding shop to strip and powder coat my mask and this is what I have now. The powder coat is smoke chrome color.

I put some black Wilson foam pads on it since this photo and I like the fit a bit better. Anyway, just wanted to share. It is sharp looking (and the labor only cost me a couple of beers!). I may have another done in matte black if I can find a deal on another Wilson.

Michael

wilson mask smoke chrome.jpg

Welcome! 

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2 hours ago, mwest5575 said:

Hi, this is my first on this site. I have been umpiring LL here in NC for a number of years. Just started umpiring middle school and some high school (private, JV) this past year. I have enjoyed using this site as a reference and look forward to posting. 

Anyway, here is a Wilson steel dynalite that I bought new this fall, and it was so heavy compared to my Diamond aluminum masks I almost returned it. I had started off years ago with an old solid wire Wilson and didn't realize how spoiled I had gotten with the Diamonds. But I'm hoping to move into higher level baseball (varsity) and I really like the protection of a steel mask. So long story short, after seeing Mask It on this site, I asked my buddy with a welding shop to strip and powder coat my mask and this is what I have now. The powder coat is smoke chrome color.

I put some black Wilson foam pads on it since this photo and I like the fit a bit better. Anyway, just wanted to share. It is sharp looking (and the labor only cost me a couple of beers!). I may have another done in matte black if I can find a deal on another Wilson.

Michael

ETA: I forgot to mention, the whole point was to try and lighten up the mask. And it did. I would not have worn it as it was, but I couldn't believe how much lighter it was after burning off that rubber coating. It is still a bit heavier than the Diamond, but very comfortable.

wilson mask smoke chrome.jpg

Welcome to the site and nice first post. Mask looks great 

Enjoy being on here and make sure to post who you are and where you are from in the new umpire to the post.

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