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Everything posted by noumpere

  1. Under "pure" OBR, play never stops for an injury. At the levels most of us do, we would stop it only when the player is in imminent danger of further harm -- that almost never in baseball, even at the lower levels. Here's what JEA has on this (emphasis added): Historical Notes: The Official Playing Rules of 1877 admonished the umpire to suspend play "...only for a valid reason and not trivial causes at the request of any player." By 1879 the umpire was instructed to suspend play "...only for an accident or injury to himself or a player or on account of rain." For a short period beginning in 1884, play could not be suspended because of an injury until the ball had been returned to the pitcher standing in his position. The basic interpretation used today was instituted in 1920. It affirmed that the umpire should not call "Time" until, in the judgment of the umpire, no further play was possible. The 1955 amendment added the proviso which allows a substitute to complete an award of one or more bases for a player incapacitated in a dead ball situation. Professional Interpretation: Regardless of the extent of an injury, time shall not be called unless the ball has been returned to the infield and no runners are in jeopardy of being put out.
  2. Ewww! oh -- maybe I misunderstood what you meant.
  3. It's the same answers as you are getting on the other board. And, a relatively simple and common questions / variant on the "can the DH re-enter" question that comes up a couple of times a year.
  4. Yes. (especially if the definition of "clinics and camps" is broadened to include "instructional classes for beginning umpires run by the local park district" and similar
  5. I disagree. That's the second time this morning. I am turning into a disagreeable old cuss
  6. I disagree. It's not a good mechanic, and it should be eliminated, but it's way too standard.
  7. Add me to the list of those who are ejecting and writing the reports. In most leagues, there will be a "post game ejection" penalty
  8. Are you asking if the CALL ("Balk!") is delayed? No -- it should be called when it happens (allowing for a normal reaction time). Are you asking if the ball becomes DEAD ("Time!") as soon as the balk is called? Maybe in OBR (it's always immediately dead in FED). IF the balk is immediately followed by a throw, then the ball remains live until the throw is caught. If the throw is wild the ball remains live until runners stop advancing (a normal time when you would grant "Time" if the balk wasn't a factor). So, what happened in your game?
  9. 1) Look to your left. If the base is empty, run toward it. 2) If you go out, stay out 3) If you partner goes out, revert to two man (I will add, that if you are new to 3-person, you should be working the plate, not U3. PU's responsibilities are nearly the same, and you can watch and learn from the other umpires.)
  10. A play or attempted play is interpreted as a legitimate effort by a defensive player who has possession of the ball to actually retire a runner. This may include an actual attempt to tag a runner, a fielder running toward a base with the ball in an attempt to force or tag a runner, or actually throwing to another defensive player in an attempt to retire a runner. When F9 (the last player in possession) threw the ball, the play was on R2.
  11. I don't think it's a play on BR until F3 has the ball. And, once he has the ball he can't (absent some weird play) commit OBS. So, any OBS is type-B
  12. While I agree with aging-arbiter, if you are working this level, and there's no need to call balls and strikes, then you are just like the BU in two person,. Position yourself accordingly, but move during the play as you would when working 1-man. The one exception might be whenever there is an R3 and a chance for a play at the plate. You wouldn't want to be behind the plate anywhere since you don't have gear -- so I guess I'd stand closer to the pitcher than a normal BU and adjust.
  13. I think LL follows OBR (mostly) in this regard. So, in all cases Jim is an announced sub for Abel. 1) If this is discovered before Jim enters the batter's box, then it's not yet a sub -- Abel can get to the plate, or the sub can be made official. If Jim is in the batter's box, then this is the same as play #2 2) Jim is in the game, and Abel is out. Assuming Jim is an eligible sub for Abel, this is allowed. 3) Jim is in the game. Abel re-entered for Baker. Baker re-entered for Charles. Sort that out using the LL re-entry rules. (This is the part that will differ from OBR)
  14. D'oh! I hate that I contributed to it -- I checked the date and noticed the month and day (and even then considered not responding); didn't see the year.
  15. No rules set considers this a balk as long as F4 (or F6) is closer to second than to first (or third). There are lots of "some guys" who don't know the rule.
  16. Sometimes you are lucky enough to not be able to get what you think you want.
  17. It also depends on the meaning of the word "crashes." You can have a sever crash, in which both players are injured, and it's still "nothing". There's a difference between accidental, just running and attempt to injure. All of that could be called a "crash."
  18. It's called a "train wreck" and it happens. No one, especially the umpires, likes them -- one side always wants OBS and the other always wants INT and we're stuck in the middle. And, while the OP would not think of this, other coaches lurking might -- also do not teach your F3 to put his foot on the side of the base facing home so as to create problems for the runner. I have seen a couple of (short-lived) coaches try this.
  19. You can't find it. That's why it's legal.
  20. Some codes have rules in place to address this practice (mostly to head off any "taunting" type issues), but none includes an out.
  21. As a general answer -- if he's saying something that could reasonably be construed as an instruction to his player, it's allowed. That seems to be the case in your play. (An exception *might* be if it was a sudden, loud exclamation right in the middle of the pitcher's motion -- this might then be construed as a phrase or action designed to get the pitcher to balk and that penalty applied.)
  22. Mods -- can the two (or maybe three, if we include the UEFL thread) be combined?
  23. 1. You are correct that this type of interference (not all interference) is an immediate dead ball. 2. BU is responsible for INT before the throw. PU is responsible for INT after the throw.
  24. When posting. Sometimes, the reply gets lost (which doesn't bother me, but I know how much others look forward to my insights! )