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Everything posted by noumpere

  1. If it's a rules issue, get together. If it's a judgment issue, leave it alone. It can be hard to tell which it is. SO, just step out from your normal position, make eye contact and let your partner decide.
  2. There's no such thing as a "GM" in the rules, so it doesn't matter for the game. What the team does on their own time is of no concern to me.
  3. Yes, this matters. It's impossible to step on to the rubber with the left foot (for a RH pitcher in the set position). To be clear, it doesn't matter to the "balk or not" question -- only to the conditions you set for the question.
  4. Given what you say the umpire saw (or didn't see), he made the right call. Given what you say actually happened, he made the wrong call. Is this subject to replay? Did they get it right?
  5. 1) Yes, focus on the larger picture. You will be able to see anything you need to see. Anything you can see only by focusing on a small body part should NOT be "Seen" at the levels most of us work. NCAA does list which balks are most commonly seen by which umpire. Knowing that can help you decide whether you "really" saw something or just "thought" you saw something -- but if you see it, call it. 2) There's no standard. Some list them both on one line (since that's the only spot either can bat in), some list them one after the other, smoe put the DH in the order and the fielder at the end, etc. Just clarify it at the plate meeting.
  6. OBR -- No penalty. Play around it. MLB does have limits on what can be in / near the on-deck circle. FED -- Umpire can decide, I think (I can't remember if that's just for a ball hitting loose equipment that prevents the ball from entering DBT, or if it applies here as well)
  7. 1) No, it doesn't. It means that when BU says, "yes, he did," PU then indicates , "Then it's a strike," and gives the mechanic. 2) No.
  8. That all depends on the level. The "magic word" contains not four letters, but three -- "you"
  9. I seem to recall that Wendelstadt (and maybe others) have this as legal -- precisely for the reason mentioned: The runner is going to advance on a steal anyway.
  10. When I've seen it, it's been a "league rule" -- so it's not the case of a ground rule superseding a book rule. And, I've seen it not only on short backstops, but also in younger levels (and those two things sometimes go together)
  11. LL (and most youth leagues) are based on OBR. OBR is written for MLB, and in MLB the players are expected to recognize the difference between their own coach's voice, and that of someone else. So, OBR does NOT contain any verbal obstruction type clause. I don't know if LL (or your league) includes such a clause in the changes that they make when adopting OBR. But, they should. And, at 8U, I'm enforcing such a clause, even if it doesn't exist. Put the runner back, admonish the other coach (nicely -- s/he's likely learning, too) and continue the game.
  12. MR

    The correct answer is going to depend on the rules code (because they have different ways of dealing with an undeclared, but valid infield fly), the timing of the events, and whether the criteria were met (which is in large part umpire judgment). Criteria NOT met: For all codes, this just becomes an inning ending double play. No runs score. See Stk004's answer above. Criteria MET: FED: It's up to the teams to know that the situation and criteria were met. So, the play becomes an infield fly -- BR is out. That removes the force on the other runners so merely touching a base does not result in an out. The first runner tagged (if any) becomes the third out. If R3 scored before this tag, the run count; if R3 "scored" after the tag, the run does not count. OBR (and, I think, NCAA): SInce the play itself resulted in a double play, it's reversed to and infield fly (BR out) and runners are placed where they would have been (umpire judgment) had the umpires correctly called it in the first place. Usually, that's back at the original bases -- so, now bases loaded with two outs.
  13. Yes, if it was the first play by an infielder.
  14. Yes -- if BR had also reached first at the time of the throw. Then, it's two bases from TOT -- so R1 is awarded home and BR is awarded third. That didn't happen in the "play in my mind" so I forgot about it.
  15. The general rule is the same at all levels -- 2 bases TOP, on the first play (not necessarily the first throw) by an infielder. I wasn't there, so I can't say if it was the first play or not. No general rules organization has a "umpire judgment" basis for determining bases on this type of play -- if it exists, it's a local rule.
  16. Yes, I know the rule. I just don't know that " That throw hits him whether he stays in the lane or not. " matters.
  17. Is that a criterion?
  18. The throw was of sufficient quality that if BR had not been there, F3 would have caught the ball. That's the standard. Now, whether BR was "there" legally or illegally is a tougher question.
  19. Try this guideline: If all of the above are true, call the IFF: A) The weather is good enough (not too windy) to still be playing. B) The players are old enough to understand (at some level) the IFF and to make routine plays C) The ball is high enough for the umpire to say "Infield Fly. Batter out if fair." between the apex and the ball reaching the ground. D) The ball lands between the plate and the dirt portion of the infield (Note that you can still have an IFF if some (or all?) of the above are not true -- its just that you need to see something else before calling it.)
  20. The PU still makes the final strike call.
  21. That's what lots of people come up wioht when first presented with the "abandonment" scenario. In fact, I think one of the "expert authorities" (or whatever term we hav eused) had that once -- it wouldn't really surprise me that it get changed back if some such play happens in MLB. For now, though, it's the exception that proves the rule.
  22. The OP didn't specify the code, but from OBR: Appeals on a half swing must be made before the next pitch, or any play or attempted play. If the half swing occurs during a play which ends a half-inning, the appeal must be made before all infielders of the defensive team leave fair territory.
  23. I think you are thinking too much about a play that's not likely to happen. Sometimes, we just need to umpire. And, give the benefit of the doubt to the team that didn't FU. There's no benefit of the doubt in play A -- the run scores pending a play at second. There's a benefit of the doubt in play B -- don't count the run.
  24. One for baseball; the other for softball. I'll let you guess which is which.
  25. It's not a play that would prevent asking this under any code. The term "intervening play" applies only under OBR and NCAA to a Running Lane Interference call -- it has no application in any other situation. Perhaps you are asking about the requirement that an appeal of a check swing happen before any "play or attempted play." The maning of that is "any play after action has become relaxed." In your situation, action was continuous, so an appeal is still allowed.