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Everything posted by kstrunk

  1. Whatever he said, it had to be pretty bad to get tossed in that situation, UNLESS... I'm off the mark in thinking that as officials we should understand the overall situation and sometimes try a bit harder to keep a guy in a game. Not at all saying the umpire was wrong to eject because I don't know what was said, but using the example as an opportunity to inquire - do we work harder in those situations to keep a guy in the game (elimination game, close game, etc...)?
  2. Welcome @Thomas Mullaney! Because you want to advance, the best advice I can give you is resist the urge to work, work, work apart from observing and learning. Especially for a young guy, you'll learn quickly that you can earn cash in decent amounts by working like crazy. But working games at a crazy pace, WITHOUT learning will quickly help you develop really bad habits that'll be hard to break, and ultimately cost you time in reaching your goal. While you can't make money going to college or pro-games and watching GOOD umpires, and asking them questions, you CAN learn what you need to apply when you DO work games, and then develop good habits. Working games is certainly necessary, but working them wrong, especially with many partners who'll give you bad advice, will slow you down. Learn the RIGHT way first, then practice it. And be very careful who you listen to. Have fun Pal.
  3. This is EXCELLENT news to me, as I've killed a couple in summer OBR season because of that habit of calling 'time' first! I'm now fixed of it, but it's been an annual thing for me, I'm slow, ya know...
  4. For me it depends several other factors, and may well be a HTBT. Is this the first negative comment from the guy, or it he a constant pain? How loud was he? What was his tone? Does he clear have the intention of taking game management control away from you with his comment, i.e... insighting others to join in? For some guys 'counting calls' is an automatic EJ, but if I'm made aware of the counting because I have rabbit ears, and it was the first negative comment I heard, I may ignore it. In fact, I've ignored very similar comments because I didn't think it was worth dealing with, and the there were no clear consequences to NOT dealing with it. On the other hand, I tossed an assistant coach once for making an almost identical comment in a different context, with significant volume and bad intentions. If you need to deal with it without ejecting the guy, I agree, don't discredit yourself by screaming across the diamond. But it's acceptable to calmly walk to a spot where he can hear your normal voice, and simply let him know that he was heard, and it's enough. Then turn around, walk away, and let him hang himself.
  5. I use it and keep it in my ball bag slot, no issues at all. Brilliant!
  6. Was the 3B coach the head coach? If not, I'm ignoring his request, completely, like he doesn't even exist. If so, while I totally understand your going for help, I'm not sure I would have, though I can't say I absolutely wouldn't have. On the opposing coach's antics, I don't feel I ever owe a coach an opportunity to trash me, even if I kick a call. I likely wouldn't have restricted him at all, but rather, would've run him completely for refusing to leave the plate. All that said... we've all been there, and will be again. Thanks for exposing yourself for our benefit.
  7. If the offensive coach starts complaining about a pitch, perhaps one that we're sure we kicked, is that going to keep us from getting the next one right in fear that the defensive coach will accuse us of pandering? Are we going to radically change our zone to try to accommodate both coaches? Or, are we going to shut down the offensive coach, defensive coach, or whomever starts yapping, and be true to the rules and our own conscience? My answer to your question is this: 'Coach, we don't argue about, or appeal balks in baseball, that was a no-stop balk, we're done.'. The only other alternative is to decide you're not going to call balks for a few innings, or for the rest of that game.
  8. I think we'd all be lying if we didn't admit this has happened to us... but the challenge is having the intestinal fortitude to anticipate that comment from the coach, and STILL call the 2nd one! I think this is, at least in part, where things go south... guys figure, 'Well... I can't call it now'... then they go to their next game, and that slope becomes more slippery because perhaps they figure 'Well, I didn't call that before, I'll be unfair if I call it now.'. Next thing you know a guy goes a few years without calling a balk, and those of us who DO call them by the book get the grief.
  9. I too am on the band-wagon against those who do NOT call the most basic balks, and unfortunately, it is the majority of guys I work with (excluding the college level). It seems a 'change in direction' has become a 'complete and discernible stop' to most umpires. So when a pitcher 'bounces his hands', he, and his coaches, think he stopped... he didn't, and it should be called a balk. Further, we shouldn't be afraid to tell coaches, 'he didn't stop, he changed directions... his hands were going down, then went up without ever stopping'. I hate to say it, but I feel like Bob Davidson anymore, because balks are so common, because not enough umpires are calling them, it's become epidemic! But as I told a first base coach on Saturday, 'while I hate calling them, they'll never learn if I don't'... this after I balked a pitcher 3 times in 2 innings for not stopping... the coaches reply - 'you were right on all of them, and they need to learn, even if it's the hard way'.
  10. All relative, I suppose. I sometimes allow my expectations to be too high, especially after a couple strong men's games, especially now having called some college games this spring. But I have to remind myself, I'm an amateur umpire, and these are mostly kids, however talented, who are still learning the game. That said, if we're talking about coaches and managers, different story perhaps, because they often fail to act like adults, not to mention mentors and coaches. But praise God, He's given us a remedy for that, and while His grace is sufficient for all in terms of salvation, I'm taking about the good ole boot! 'See ya coach, you're no longer welcome here!'.
  11. Mixed bag for me, doing mostly high school summer ball, Connie Mack, Legion, and MSBL men's baseball. A ton of good baseball, with a bunch of knowledgeable coaches. But then there are always those mixed in that bring some dread. For instance, had a catcher in a Connie Mack (13-16 y/o) game the other night, big strong kid, rising senior, couldn't catch a cold, totally outmatched by his pitcher (which I don't see a ton of in high school/college season), who threw hard and had good off speed stuff too, that the catcher just couldn't handle; no fun for me, hard to get settled... ...but for the few of those, our summer ball here in PA is pretty good.
  12. He's also has a graduate degree in theology and is an ordained minister.
  13. That was a legal tag, forcefully applied, combined with a lack of body control. But if, hypothetically, Hrbek's hip knocked him off the bag rather than a forcefully applied tag, he should be put back.
  14. Excellent!!! However, in the OP, I'm reading as the act of the fielder dropping to a knee knocked the runner off the base, not necessarily the tag. So if it was the knee of the fielder that shoved the runner off the bag, we put him back, if it's the tag, he's out.
  15. Abides and endures, maybe, but is it thriving? People don't go to games, even free games, and there's a reason for it. I'm not saying that this particular issue is the ONLY reason, but merely that it could be a contributing factor. I just read an article about University of Oregon hemorrhaging money, citing declining ticket sales as part of the problem. New stadiums at all levels are putting people MUCH closer to the action where you can hear and see just about everything, and at some point I think participants, including coaches, should be mindful of that, especially if they want to keep getting raises like the one the coach in question got!
  16. My question wasn't so much about profanity in general, but coaches using it loudly and demonstratively in arguing a call, particularly those more severe words that are generally acknowledged by society as unprofessional and impolite. It just seems to me that the yelling and screaming of certain words toward an umpire, even without the word 'you', crosses a line, which, when not disciplined, damages the game as it perpetuates an already difficult problem. This guy got tossed, I'm just wandering if he was allowed to go too far beforehand.
  17. 9 complete innings in a men's league game yesterday in 1 hour and 39 minutes! I couldn't believe it when my partner told me that as we exited the field. Good pitching and defense. Love those days!
  18. Thanks @ElkOil, I do, and I agree with you. Just find it difficult to critique an umpire who's likely forgot more about umpiring than I've learned, but I'm absolutely willing to challenge and be challenged for the sake of getting better. Still, I've got one season in college ball, and the guy in question is calling a power 5, post-season game.. thus my reluctance to opine. But I agree with you AND @maven.
  19. Couldn't agree more @maven! My post that followed yours was NOT intended as a reply to your opinion or critique. Rather, an admission that some on U-E (including yourself) are very qualified to critique an umpire, while I personally am not likely qualified to critique a D1 umpire. That said, I also agree with you that most of us can look at, and discuss things in hindsight using a given body of knowledge and the rules, without being judgmental.
  20. Thanks... and I agree with the 3 P's, but I'm also wondering if aggression, posture, and tone matter. This particular offender was aggressive, loud, and demonstrative out of the duggout, so I'm asking if we take that into consideration in college baseball. Also, how much do others take the venue and situation into consideration? Big 10 Tournament, big spot, and perhaps the extra leeway was result of PU not liking his own call? But all those things aside, putting myself in that situation, when I see and hear the HC coming at me like that, I'm probably thinking 'he's got about 5 seconds to calm down'.
  21. On the EJ, I need to learn and grow in regard to acceptances and tolerance levels in college baseball, so I'm asking objectively... How many vulgarities must a coach scream demonstratively at an umpire before getting the hook? I was previously operating under the premise that if a coach f-bombs me loud enough for others to hear, he's done. Maybe I'm off the mark? I applaud this PU's patience and professionalism, and I'm wondering how many share a similar level.
  22. While I haven't the experience to judge another brother's call, I'll say that when I'm judging such calls in my own games, the pitch is a huge part of it, and that pitch was waaaaayyyy too poor to keep the Batter. Too high and too tight, and the batter didn't have much of an opportunity to do much more than he did. But again, as in everything we do, timing is everything, and these calls require premium timing from the PU. A tad slower, he maybe makes no call except, 'HBP'. I say this hesitantly knowing I could easily make a similar call, errant or not.
  23. Yankees v. Ray's today, Scott Barry gives Girardi the hook, Girardi covers the plate with dirt, Barry refused to clean it after play resumed (Yanks on defense). Sanchez eventually cleaned it with his hand. Would you clean the plate for the sake of professionalism, or stick it to 'em in front of all watching?
  24. The defense covered it, so when they switch sides, if it's still not cleaned, PU should definitely brush the plate in between, so as not to punish the innocent team.
  25. I appreciate your effort in preventing such language and disrespect from becoming normative in scholastic baseball. It's become such in all higher levels, but we have to do our part for the moral health of young people, and you've done so. Strong work. Many guys wouldn't eject for this. Glad you did.