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  1. Cripes BrianC14, you had the 8th post about that incident back in 2010 on page 28 right now, under 'umpire news from around the web'. He, McDonnell, got 3 days for that one in the Big East tournament and missed the start of the Regionals. And I am sure you knew that all 4 umpires working that ejection game in the Big East Tournament in 2010, had worked the Regionals (Shields, Bennett, Collins, Mele), with Mele and Collins having worked a CWS within their careers, and Mele going on to become a MLB observer in New York at one time. And recently, McDonnell has gone on to sign a $1,000,000 per year contract ($325,000 per year raise) with Louisville in June 2016, which they did very quickly after Augie Garrido retired so that Texas did not steal him. And along with that 1 million this year, he just raked in a retention bonus of $150,000 this year just for staying, and will get another one in 2020, etc. etc. He had to go do something if he did not like a call or situation or just whining all the time in general, to make sure it looks like he is earning his keep. Articles do not say if he gets bonuses for post season play like the little angel with a halo, the coach at Maryland's contract is laced with.
  2. I will assume no dramatic bat flip having not seen the home run. Well, if nothing happens this afternoon, obviously we are now into the later this year part of the phrase or even the future reference part. Spring training has even been known as a place to settle some past disagreements from the regular season. Something situation like this on the bases or in the last meeting of a team for the year, and on your last at bat against a club in the 8th inning, you do a overly dramatic bat flip. The next time to show your displeasure with that act would be Spring Training, and elephants never forget.
  3. Let's see if a little chin music is in order tonight???? or later this year. keep this play in mind for future reference.
  4. another article to go along with your original that you might like. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2017/06/20/legendary-umpire-joe-west-dishes-players-managers-and-replay-5-000-game/412332001/ and another http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/hummel-a-lot-of-history-in-joe-west-s-games/article_6a71718e-2655-5573-b23a-b20fdf915b50.html
  5. Thank you lawump. That was kind of how I saw it reading between the lines, even though I am blind in one eye and cannot see out the other. Wasn't trying to get you in any trouble. Hope you were not texting the above while driving to that Florence game to scout Caleb Stone and Zach Robbins. Happy Trails to you.
  6. Can't everyone just go to umpire school in 2018 so we can get rid of all the apparent bad calls and situation handling going into the future. It is a great job (i.e. salary and benefits). AAA in your 5th year, and full MLBU fill in schedule in your 6th year. Hired to the full time staff in your 9th year. Bare down. Let's go. Umpire school is only 7 months away.
  7. correct. At least by the box score in the 8th inning play by play section says it goes in the books as a stolen base.
  8. Late to the game here lawump. Just remember my sign in is very true. Just like FG (FG was played by Tom Hanks) was openly honest in one of his comments to Jenny. It hurts. However, at least in my own mind, I/dd will admit to being 50/50 good with finding those greasy spoon places to find sustenance. I have no idea how to handle the situation you were dealing with the absolute correct way. Say nothing and let it go on. Say something and try to say it constructively and concisely and hopefully positively, in words that the other party will know they are not being highly admonished or whatever the words are that make people go negative and want to jump off a bridge. What are the right words and what is the right thing to do. You lawyers are great wordsmiths in/with the English language or you are out of a job, and I use the word wordsmith in a non-negative way, but how do you really know I am being positive or am I trying to sneak in some sneakily worded cheap shot? Ya know, sometimes you just got to umpire. But, here is my problem with the situation. How does an umpire get this far with doing those "absolute no no's" on the field with decorum. The respect is earned not coddling or glad-handing, but in your on field umpiring and handling situations. Hustle, mechanics, confidant and concise calls, fair but firm approachable demeanor when needed exhibited by body language and voice. Although we want this to be about the umpire we just worked with, let's get a little more 'up the chain of command" (IMHO we don't move up the COC ladder to ask questions many times). Exactly where, when, how, why, did this person actually think any of this was even remotely acceptable. I am more inclined to blame those in a position to have this well-intended individual, to work at all, knowing they think this on field demeanor is an acceptable way to umpire as part of the Association/Assignor they are representing. This should have been squelched at the very beginning levels of any Association that is contracted to work. The Assignor and Association has to go look in the mirror and take the hit/good look at themselves for this, unless this individual suddenly just went rogue this one time. It seems hard to believe this was his first time to the rodeo. If, as an assignor or Association something totally out of my/our control happened and I could only embarrassingly send someone that I knew was out of their element and that we were working on, that had some bad habits, that they somehow see as acceptable (how in the heck did they acquire these after all our meetings/clinics in the room and on field demonstrations?), I (as assignor or Association) would be on that phone or on the premises myself to some how get a message to lawump and give a heads up on what had just transpired, even if I was an assignor from another group. (maybe a situation where 2 different groups assign 1 umpire each to a game.). So, my beef is with the association/assignor more so than the umpire. Phone in the game????? Give me a break. Only an absolute emergency situation like relative on their death bed, would even make me carry a phone on the field. What did we do prior to Cell Phones. We probably cancelled the game with the assignor and sat by the land line phone in the house or worked the game and ran back home to monitor the phone. I would also let my partner know that I had an emergency situation but I would only go for the message in between innings if??????????? I needed to. At least you would be aware of this. Remember, I believe I saw somewhere on the internet (maybe I dreamed it up) there was a guy, who in a pre-game with his crew-chief before a College game, openly admitted he was not as up to snuff "anymore" in the 2 man system as he would like to be. The umpire who admitted this, I believe, was negatively reported on by the CC, but I am not sure if with the negativity the CC asked not to work with him again since (at this moment I cannot find that old comment from an old article that I either dreamed or read the comment) (crew chiefs probably have to report whatever they got positive or negative on their partners). I also believe this to be a decent umpire even if rusty. I believe this umpire had to retire due to a back injury. Just some thoughts. How would each of us handle this situation. Let it go?, constructively inform?, who knows. Sometimes you just got to umpire, with either decision you make and let the chips fall where they may. Notice I played the old run away and hide game without stating a definitive answer. the coach is on my butt on balls and strikes. I clearly saw the batter go on the check swing but since they are on my butt. dd--- did he go???? law ump--Go where????? dd
  9. Fans come to see ejections, performed at times in the past by a Hall of Famer, the honorable Doug Harvey mentioned above, as one of the great historical reasons and pleasures of going to go see a baseball game, along with the peanuts, and crackerjacks. A regular guy/joe/manager gets to go chew somebody out for a perceived/or real injustice, get it off his chest, get the day off work, and come back the next day like nothing happened. Fans get to enjoy the histrionics, simple/or demonstrative employed, and scream at the evil Darth Vader/Lord Voldemort/umpire taking advantage of/bullying the beloved team while their Luke Skywalker/Harry Potter Manager defends them from the evil Darth Vader/Lord Voldemort/umpire. More and more IR=fewer and fewer ejections. More and more IR=fewer and fewer fans who get to see one of life's simple pleasures called an ejection, while attending the National Pastime .
  10. better get off that keyboard and over to the Maddon ejection. Might get a longer video than normal right below. Nice closer view of the pole and ball towards the end rather than the beginning. http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/watch-joe-maddon-ejected-anthony-rizzo-home-run/dfq2fju0fnwj1sgccc8gi8p2e
  11. Get in good with and become the right hand man for Richvee, LMSans, and a guy named Vinnie Smith and you will do just fine. They did. Provided you can umpire.
  12. Coach We are very leary about replying to one sentence questions when we are not at the field of play, to see everything that happened during the whole game from beginning to end, including witnessing what happened on the field during the situation concerning the question. We have all had incidences where the question and situation described to our superior officer's by a coach in no way, even by the stretch of the imagination, was anywhere in the ball park of what happened or what we told the coach had happened. We do not want to be a site where questions are posed and then the answer is put up on telephone poles with the umpires picture in the local area due to sore feelings. Will the answer to whatever the situation is, keep a player, coach, umpire, or league official from obtaining their dream job in Major League Baseball? There are some league's that have rules that supercede the regular rule book. Courtesy runners, etcetera. We pretty much need the play by play for each inning of the game and then the exact situation on the field for any descriptions concerning the play in question. We also need the area in that particular rule set and the book it is from, so that we can see the words from that book that both the coach and the umpire are looking at concerning the situation. The words may mean what the coach is saying in some cases and in other cases the words mean what the umpire was saying, even though they are looking at the same words. Nobody is perfect, coaches, umpires, fans, players, etc. etc. We are not into those that would (and I am not saying the poster is one) print off the answers and take them to the plate with them or to the next board of directors meeting or whatever. I am surprised the leaders that you report to, have not answered this question for you already.
  13. and rather than everyone trying to figure out who should have done what. The big take away for all you young guys is the fact that the junior man on the crew took it upon himself to try and bust his rear end to get over there when everyone is having a brain cramp. He just reacted to the situation, using his instincts. This is the type of situation that allows your stock price to rise. (AAA uses 4 man crews much of the time and this type of play, i would bet dollars to doughnuts, raises your umpiring value immensely all things being equal with onlooking supervisors. (this would have been great for one of the call-up guys to have done what Reyburn did). No doubt this should never have happened to start with, but I guarantee that if lawump or anyone scouting an umpiring prospect sees this type of instincts, that umpire moves up the list in stock value. Doesn't mean things will work out in the end, but that is what they are looking for, and a great play to show the instincts when you hear that word mentioned. No, he did not play the game of, "not my job", i got the batter runner only, unless by chance the home plate umpire starts moving to third, and then I go to the plate only, or I don't want to show up my crew. He just used his instincts and reacted to the situation that presented itself. Now, if there was no replay and they started giving him crapola, in the old days the veterans would be up there in a heart beat to bail him out since he at least tried to get over there after they had messed up. Textbook for the instincts they are looking for IMHO, not only in MLB, MiLB but for all levels of umpiring. 3 man. 0 outs. runner on third only. Foul ball hit over towards the dugout (that is far from home plate and plate umpire goes way over to make sure catcher/3B catches the ball. 3rd base umpire lines up the tag. Pitcher/1B forgets to cover home, runner tags. Uh oh, plate umpire is too far away from home plate to get back. 1st base umpire is just standing at the normal first base position, having fun watching since batter is not running. So the only umpire who has a chance to make it to home when he sees where the ball is going, just stands there like a knot on a log, rather than go to home for the play. That can easily happen. But, if that umpire immediately breaks towards home and then ends up having to cover the plate, you don't think that supervisor is very very happy at any level. That is what they are looking for, other than ball/strike and "routine" mechanics and field positioning and movement. Umpiring instincts come into play IMHO.
  14. Did you change occupations law ump. I have some boxes that need a "mover". You can "shake" your booty anytime, but I prefer not to watch. any of us who could probably fall under the category that is called a mover and shaker, does not mean that we can move or shake the others enough to always win the day. Just because Tennessee (did I spell that right ??? T e double n e double s double e Tennessee---is 100% in line with OBR doesn't mean the other 49 all move in lock step. Cripes, it took MLB till the cows came home and one timely home run, to get rid of that rule that cheapskate Calvin Griffith had installed and everyone knew stunk, but was clearly worded. And even then, they messed up by not allowing the rule as written to be called exactly as it was called and should have been enforced for the last time ever, by rebuking the umpires correct enforcement of the rule as written. If they had done it right, they would have been enforcing the rule as written and backing the umpires, then they should have changed the rule in the next breath going forward to what it should have always been and was indeed changed to. Just go ask that guy near you in Myrtle Beach and in the Elon Hall of Fame with Joe West and Kay Yow, and unfortunately the rule wiz of that crew has passed on. Maybe at some point this balk can be changed to OBR, but for now it stays, no matter how much you move and shake. Keep giving your insights lawump, even when you cannot give out the entire company secrets. I for one, have enjoyed your commentary.
  15. but it is all right to dramatically/demonstratively bat flip on a pitch right down broadway that is deposited into the stands.
  16. It goes back to how concisely the rule is written and even then, without exact examples of foot placement in pictures like were provided in the OP, words/phrases like "gaining ground" leave much to be desired on the editorial end, even though that might be the only way to correctly word a particular rule or situation. We also need those "real life" in person or video examples that help us visualize the the pictures drawn like the OP. How much ground-----1/16 of an inch for those who can still see that well, 1 inch, 1 foot, 2 feet?????, Just how much without those pictures for guidance are we to interpret as "gaining ground". That becomes the pulling your hair out conundrum. MAU has given us some great guidance from those involved on the written/communication and interpretation end of the situation using resources that he has access to, more so than the rest of us many times. And, no matter how great/super/unquestionable/concise the rule is written, to those who write the rules, we still have a need for guidance, even if it appears we seem to be on the anal end of things many times. Also, no matter how great a rule is written, just as MAU has mentioned, and more times than anyone would like to admit, there is not always a killer word or phrase you can use to explain to every coach imaginable that will satisfy the coach and keep you out of the dreaded ejection. Some times you just got to umpire and let the chips fall where they may, and hope that you catch the eye of that person who can help and move your career along. Once again-sometimes you just gotta umpire. There will never be an exact answer to every question imaginable out there.
  17. You mean "The" Randy Bruns who worked the Midwest League, Eastern League, and then the American Association with Bob Davidson, Gerry Davis, Tim McClelland, Dan Morrison, Steve Rippley, Tim Welke, and Larry Young? As a Super Conference umpire, worked the 1999 CWS with Super Conference College Assignor Rich Fetchiet, the 2003 CWS with Super Conference Umpire Joe Burleson and once again the 2006 CWS with Super Conference Umpire Joe Burleson again? "That" Randy Bruns?
  18. MAU I could tell them to listen to you but I am dumbdumb. Hopefully you can just bite your tongue and keep plugging away. I always enjoy your in-sites. Would love to attend your camp, but it is just not in the cards.
  19. this umpire also enjoyed working a little different than most. go to 16:50 for a good side view.
  20. Thanks for the clarification. Just remember my name with anything I mention. With a little googling below. Almost a big upset with that little ""Non-Major Conference School""" in Death Valley yesterday. And, oh my, an upset by another ""Non-Major Conference School""down at Boshamer Stadium (i.e. The field that, Dean Smith and Michael Jordan built.) And another coach from the NC Factory, that Frank McGuire with Alex English/Bobby Cremins, helped build a lot of stuff (Sarge Frye Field) down your way also. Of course that large lady, whoever she is, has not started singing yet. Now, go put your CPL hat on and get over to Florence or Lexington County tonight and supervise, and write up your reports on who/whom (in your humble analysis) should get that first call (contract) into MiLB when an opening occurs. Pay close attention and don't take any foul balls to the head while supervising without your mask on. We don't want the marbles in that very well trained and highly, highly knowledgeable and efficient legal mind of yours all scrambled up. Have a great summer.
  21. Well, he must have fallen apoplectic with his 9-1 shellacking this afternoon, especially since his pitchers threw 95 strikes out of 137 pitches (70%), while the opponents only threw 70 strikes out of 129 pitches (55%). Doesn't mean they won't come from behind and win the whole shebang though.
  22. The one that has the coach who has been known to have an "expletive-filled rant", playing the first game today at 2pm.
  23. You should be going over to Gene Hooks field and watching the umpires working the Regional Tournament, starting at 2 pm tomorrow and continuing through Sunday or possibly Monday if an extra game is needed at 7pm.
  24. And they would try to bury West or Hernandez when they make this call at first base as the 1BU. Snitker tries to say this is the same move he has used all night and why didn't the PU or the best balk umpire in MLB at 2nd make the call. And the aggressive step towards Snitker at both 36 and again at 39 would have everybody calling for West or Hernandez job. So, why all the hostility towards West and Hernandez and the free pass for Barrett, who is a very very good umpire, along with the other 2?