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  1. 3 points
    Had this gem from over the weekend. Babe Ruth game, bottom 6, bases loaded, 2 out, VT up by 2. Batter has already seen a few pitches (think the count was 2-1) and VT coach suddenly yells from the dugout, "Hey Blue, they've got the wrong batter! #33 is up, should be #11, that's the third out." [You probably can guess where this is going...] VT players start walking off the field. I call "Time" and tell everyone to go back to their positions. I look over to the HT coach who's already talking to an asst. who's keeping the book. Coach looks down the bench at a player and I hear him say coolly, "Devon, you're at bat. Get up there." Think he knew he dodged a bullet there. While proper batter is walking to the plate, VT coach comes out to tell me the inning is over for "batting out of order." I tell him he appealed too early and explain the proper time to appeal BOO - and he's looking at me like I have two heads. He got hot under the collar but didn't get personal w/ me or say anything to get dumped. Proper batter finally comes to bat. He takes a ball, then he dumps the next pitch way over F9 for bases-clearing triple. (He scored on wild pitch before pop out ended the inning.) After the triple, VT coach yells out, "This is f*-ing' unbelievable!" Don't know if that was directed at me or his players...doesn't really matter...I tossed him. VT went in order in top 7, game over. There are two types of coaches. Those who know the rules. And those who think they do.
  2. 3 points
    Tbroze lets put this to bed real quick. Are the best umpires in the country at the CWS every year... NOPE there are politics involved just like in anything MLB, MiLB, HS and LL. There is a rotation, there is a sitting period for the top level guys otherwise you'd see the same 8-10 guys year in year out. And everyone would lose their minds on, "no thats not fair"... Ok so here it goes. Did this umpire have a "big" in your opinion bad zone today... YEP. But do you know that this umpire was also the alternate and was called in and got on a plane b/c a crew chief went down with an injure less than 48 hours ago. NO. Have you ever worked in this type of an enviroment where you're being judge by 27 cameras and ESPN and 30k + people? It's really easy to call pitches from the couch, hell its easy to call them from the 1b foul line. But we support umpires here. We can say that he might be to far back, moving his head, to high/low, not enough slot foot as a training avenue. But lets not blast the guys who have been doing this at an extremely high level for years and own the coaches and administrators respect. As for the other calls they've "missed" yep there have been several and guess what, if ESPN where to show multiple games at any level with this much coverage I'd bet my life savings you'd see more missed calls than this. They've also had some nut cutters that have been 100% right! Oh by the way there are multiple guys at the CWS this year who have MLB time and multiple cws, super regionals, regionals and MiLB experience. Now to the issue of you being there... I run an umpire camp that the national coordinators D1, D2 and D3 come too every year. Private message me and you can have a spot and show them what you got and see if you can jump over the guys in the line and put those brass balls to work. I don't care a guys age, I've seen 55+ year olds go from hs to D1 in 5 years without pro experience. I hate excuses from guys on why there not there. I love working with guys with passion and that can out umpire me! That is my challenge to myself every game, give to the brotherhood and out work everyone on the field to be the best. So come on down and I'll see you in October where by the way 2 of those umpires are going to be there. Just my $0.02
  3. 2 points
    This is a situational post and deserves to be in this forum. If you don't want to read softball situations then skip it. You don't get to direct traffic on this site.
  4. 2 points
    Somewhere in the 30-40% of pants purchased by all umpires are heather grey. I would encourage you to try a pair of the charcoal, if you want. We'd be happy to pay the returns shipping back if they don't work for you or aren't close enough to doing so. If after looking at them (and the female heather grey when they come out next month if you want there as well), feel free to send me a PM with suggestions for any changes for a female fit, and I will share them personally with Joe DeRosa at Smitty.
  5. 2 points
    R2 was forced to leave second because the batter became a batter-runner. That's the definition (at least paraphrased) of a force play. Since the third out was a force out, no runs score.
  6. 2 points
    8.3.2 SITUATION K: F6 fields a ground ball and throws to F3 in attempt to retire B1 at first. The ball is thrown wide. As F3 lunges towards the ball, F3 collides with B1, knocking him to the ground prior to possessing the ball (a) while the runner is short of first base or (b) after the runner has contacted first base. RULING: (a) Obstruction; (b) legal. Expanding on the OP and in regards to the collision in (b), I would still call obstruction after the collision if F3 doesn't "possess the ball" and the contact "...hinders a runner or changes the pattern of play" after an overthrow; such as, F3 may be judged to delay B1's recovery to advance while F2 or F9 chases the errant throw. I still have to judge that B1 had a viable chance to successfully advance or else it's nothing in NFHS. OBR's two different obstruction criteria (1/A and 2/B) would be useful here in a NFHS game.
  7. 2 points
    Having a bad game doesn't make you a bad umpire...it just means you had a bad game....and I'd bet he (Greg) would be the first to tell you he had a bad game. And that alone is what separates good umpires from ones that sit back and criticize.
  8. 1 point
    Recently, I can add @mw94 to the list. We did our games in 109º heat, and while he did 2 games, I was on the tail end of 4 for that day. Needless to say, my timing was affected as PU. I managed, but wasn't as sharp as I'd have liked to have been when working alongside a fellow U-E guy. Several weeks ago, I was privileged to not only (finally!) meet up with @Majordave, but he visited our game venue and watched one of my fellow Vultures and I work two games back-to-back and give us on-the-fly feedback. Here's the running list:
  9. 1 point
    I've always wondered why someone would purchase the visor to begin with. Your hat blocks the sun.
  10. 1 point
    We won the protest. Thanks for all your responses. in addition to rules cites, I quoted the line, "an infielder cannot balk" in my submission to my league. Thank you to whoever brought up a possible "delay of game" issue. I mentioned that in my submission and then debunked it so as to close a potential loophole.
  11. 1 point
    He just can't sidle up near his side of the plate and time the pitcher from there which might be what the OP is referring to.
  12. 1 point
    Are we supposed to take our hat off also to watch touches of HP?
  13. 1 point
    OBR Rules /\ bold added as noumpere stated, since R2 is forced to advance and he's put out prior to reaching thrid safely, it's a force out, tag the runner or the base, it doesn't matter, it's a force out.
  14. 1 point
    I wasn't offended, but that may be because I didn't get it...
  15. 1 point
    Were they discussing wedding gifts?
  16. 1 point
    1. I think you probably called TIME, you just maybe didn't do it out loud. =) 2. A verbal dead ball appeal is allowed by "the coach or any defensive player, with or without the ball." (9.3, p 52) 3. A live ball appeal on leaving early requires a tag of the base or the player. The dead ball appeal does not. 4. You should rule on the appeal when it is clear to you that an appeal is being made. 5. The appeal must be made "before the next legal or illegal pitch." (9.4) There is no provision for an intervening play disallowing an appeal, but that's mainly because it's stupid in fastpitch to attempt a live ball appeal after the ball has been returned to the circle.
  17. 1 point
    It was scratched up, so I thought I'd just go ahead and put a new look on it as well. And if the visor idea is to block the sun, then a blacked out visor would certainly stop light coming through completely was my thought.
  18. 1 point
    Moylan was pissed at the "ball 3" call on Bautista in that inning that caught most of the plate .......
  19. 1 point
    The distinction you mention is relevant to a batted, not a thrown, ball.
  20. 1 point
    love you too stu!
  21. 1 point
    This was a mistake. Ejected coaches go to the parking lot or further, they do not stay in the dugout - ever (I think Fed says something different here because of teams taking busses). You hold the game while they leave then continue when they are out of sight. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
  22. 1 point
    Depends. If would be a dead ball if either are ruled. Here is a good video explaining if it should be called or not.
  23. 1 point
    In my experience, most umpires think that their timing for calls at 1B is really good. Empirical evidence demonstrates that it isn't. I video them. After, I ask: how long, in seconds, between the play and your call? Most will say 1-2 seconds. A stopwatch reveals that nearly all are less than 1 second, most less than 0.5 seconds. I'm not suggesting that there's a proper time interval. I'm suggesting that it FEELS like a long time when we learn to use proper timing. Proper use of the eyes, for an umpire with bad timing, FEELS like 20 minutes. Focusing on using your eyes correctly, as grayhawk has explained, is the proper approach. Timing will take care of itself, and you'll also give your brain time to process all the evidence. That last bit is important: since we're using both visual and auditory evidence, we have to coordinate two distinct parts of the sensory cortex, through the pre-frontal cortex (for decision making). The brain sends signals fast, but with more information across different parts of the brain, it takes correspondingly longer. Failing to give your brain time to coordinate its evidence is the cause of so much second-guessing.
  24. 1 point
    I asked this in the mask open thread. But I'll ask here as well. What made you/was the reason for blacking out the visor?
  25. 1 point
    But the runner makes his own.
  26. 1 point
  27. 1 point
    The suggestion that umpires "work harder" to do anything is objectionable on its face, as it is vague. Harder than what? It's generally doubletalk motivated by fanboy attitudes toward some call or action of an umpire and utterly unsubstantiated by data.
  28. 1 point
    Did my first all star tournament game the other day!! It was a district tournament game for Little League Intermeiate 50/70 division
  29. 1 point
    @stl_ump, you have MANY more opportunities to practice proper use of eyes than you might realize. I posted this on the Fed Facebook group last week, and think it might help you as well. I'm not announcing anything, but you might look for it in the July issue of Referee magazine too. To give yourself the best chance of getting a call correct, the most important factors are (1) Get the best angle possible, (2) Be set for the critical action, and (3) Proper timing. Proper timing is one of the most difficult things for umpires to master, and even the best among us is bound to make a call too quick from time to time. So how do we practice proper timing so that when we get a whacker that may decide the outcome of the game, we are calm, cool and collected? You may not realize it, but you have literally thousands of opportunities every season to practice "proper use of eyes" which is THE key component of good timing. As the base umpire standing in short right field between innings, do you watch the infielders warm-up throws as if you were calling a play each and every time? If you are not, then you are foregoing the opportunity to build the muscle memory necessary to have proper timing. From your position, watch the infielder throw the ball to F3. Judge the throw out of his hand (is it a true throw, or off line?), snap your head to the 1B bag and listen for the pop of the mitt. Then, and this is the critical part, allow your head and eyes (the bill of your cap should physically move up) to travel up to F3's mitt to judge secure possession and voluntary release. Then, and only then, should you mentally make your call. This is proper use of eyes and if you do this on every call, whether the runner is out by ten feet, or on a real banger, then it's almost impossible to make your call too fast. This is also an opportunity to practice read steps. When you snap your head and eyes to the bag, read F3 and how he is striding to make the catch. Is he reaching towards the plate? Towards the RF line? Straight at you? Use these throws to practice reading F3 and making a mental read step in the proper direction to get the best angle. This is a more advanced drill and I recommend that you only move on to read steps after you have built your muscle memory on your head and eyes traveling to the mitt to where it's automatic in live game action. Doing this drill between innings is an excellent opportunity to perfect our timing. Use this time wisely and you'll vastly improve the likelihood of having great timing on even the closest of plays.
  30. 1 point
    Part of it could be the fact that this was your first game of the year. My first game this year was a nightmare mechanics wise, but game #2 was like an entirely different person. Personally, I doubt myself most when I get too close to the play (sucked in) or start to anticipate the call. After one of these happens, I make a mental note and ensure that for the rest of the game I keep proper distance and wait for the play to happen, rather than expecting something to happen. Coming off of a long winter, especially with the WBC, we have to switch out of spectator mode and back into umpire mode. Your confidence will take a big boost when you get a call right, that wasn't really THAT close (more than half a step), and the offensive team complains. Then you'll think "Man, that wasn't even close and they think I'm wrong."
  31. 1 point
    Great advice all. One more thing @stl_ump, the culture of the baseball fan/spectator, especially at the amateur level, is one that EXPECTS the umpire to be wrong whether he is or isn't. Peoples' emotions are wrapped up in the success of their kids/players/students, so whether you're right or wrong is often irrelevant, you're GOING to hear from people even when you're right. So evaluate your mechanics and focus on getting better, and tune out the rest of the 'umps' who are outside the lines.
  32. 1 point
    Since I work so many games I get lots of opportunities to practice making calls at first. It's rare you get a a lot of close calls in a game like you had. I try and use every play, even the most routine, as preparation for the 5% that may be difficult. Get in perfect position, read the throw, let the ball turn me. HOK set, focus on F1's foot on the bag and just listen. After I hear the play, look up for voluntery release, signal my call. One last step I add, mentally evaluate my positioning and process. If I've repeated the process 50 times then when I get a wacker If doesn't seem to be overwhelming. Repeating good habits over and over builds self confidence and gives others confidence in your competence. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
  33. 1 point
    A couple of the responses you've already gotten are in line with my thinking. I focus on the process. If I control what I can control, where I stand, how I use my eyes, my priorities, the way I do everything down to the smallest detail, I can live with the outcome. Even if I get the call right and no one complains but I did the wrong thing I'm not happy. I'm after perfection in execution not in my calls. You can do everything right and get a call wrong or get criticism. Don't let that bother you. Jim Evans says 90-95% of our calls anyone can make. We educate ourselves and prepare for the other 5%. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
  34. 1 point
    "BALL ONE" wait 15 seconds "BALL TWO" wait 15 seconds "BALL THREE" prepare to restrict/eject coach when he loses his mind over the above.