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10 years in and finally my first Ejection of a High School Coach. This is my report I had to submit. No laughing please. I changed the names to protect the people involved.

 

 

Top of 4th Inning. We had a Swipe tag at 1st base. I got together with my partner and we reversed the call. The Head Coach(JOHN) from High School came to talk to my partner. I told the coach it was my call and to come talk to me. JOHN started screaming at me, " Don't try and show me up." I said "Excuse me?" He repeated,"Don't try and show me up." His voice getting louder. I walked to the JOHN and said "Coach it is my call. You need to talk to me about the call." He said :Don't tell me what to do. I was asking BOB why you didn't let GREG come out and talk to you. I replied "I didn't need GREG to come out to me. I know what he was going to ask me." At that point JOHN got right up in my face and said "You need to own your calls and be a Man." At that point I warned JOHN to stop raising his voice or I was going to have to restrict him to the Dugout. Once again he yelled, "You Don't tell me what to do. Be a Man." At that point I restricted him to the dugout. He said to me "Why?" And I simply told him, he needs to go to the dugout and can not come on the field except to deal with an injured player. He said "Why are you restricting me?" I didn't answer him. Then he got right up in my face again and said, "You are just afraid. Be a man and Own your own calls. This is BullSH*#." At that point I Ejected him from the game. And as I turned to walk away he started following me. He was yelling at me and calling me a coward and a joke. BOB, my partner, was trying to rodeo him away from me.But JOHN was having none of that. He kept coming after me. And then he finally got around BOB and Said "This is F*#King BullSH*#!"and bumped me on the side. At that point I said "Cursing and bumping me? That will be going in my report as well." At which point he replied, "I don't give a crap about your report. Be a DAM MAN and own your calls. You are a joke and shouldn't be on a baseball field." At that point TOM, his assistant coach, came and took him away. The game continued without any further incidents. As soon as the game ended and we were leaving the field, JOHN showed back up on the field. BOB and I just left the field and went to our cars. There were no further incidents. 
 
On a side note, TOM was the Coach who came to the plate meeting. JOHN apparently showed up late. He never reported to BOB or myself that he was the Head Coach. I did explain to TOM that he needed to make sure in the future that that is taken care of as soon as the Head Coach shows up to the facility. 
 
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He wasn't at the plate meeting? He should have already been restricted. He should have been tossed the second he came out to argue for one of two reasons: (if you had known he was HC) violating his restriction , or (because he was never identified as HC) being an assistant leaving his position to argue.

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Awesome drama. Good report. Wonder if he will draw any further suspension for the bump and prolonged arguing post-ejection.

Word from our IC is that he will be receiving a multiple game suspension.

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I try to keep my reports to 25 words or fewer. I'd state what he said and that he bumped me. Nothing that happens in the game warrants his bad behavior, so I don't include all that stuff.

 

Sometimes when you strip it down to the bare facts, it looks even worse for the coach. That guy might be looking at a year off in my state.

 

Have you examined your actions to see whether you might have handled anything better? He came out to your partner and you jumped in there — maybe let partner steer him to you? I had a little trouble following the exchange, but he certainly seemed out of control and ready to go.

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I try to keep my reports to 25 words or fewer. I'd state what he said and that he bumped me. Nothing that happens in the game warrants his bad behavior, so I don't include all that stuff.

 

Sometimes when you strip it down to the bare facts, it looks even worse for the coach. That guy might be looking at a year off in my state.

 

Have you examined your actions to see whether you might have handled anything better? He came out to your partner and you jumped in there — maybe let partner steer him to you? I had a little trouble following the exchange, but he certainly seemed out of control and ready to go.

 

Yes I did. And where my partner messed up was not directing him to me. He admitted that after. I messed up by not giving him the opportunity to direct him to me. My partner said he was just trying to make things easier on me. But I have always been taught to not let my partner take any poop for my call. So I was trying to get the coach to come to me since it is my call. But since my partners intercepted, I could have let him direct it to me. But either way, the Coach escalated it very quickly. And I believe he was ready to go, no matter how we had handled that situation. 

 

That being said, next time, I will give my partner a minute to direct him to me. 

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10 years in and finally my first Ejection of a High School Coach.

 

That's awesome. From reading the tone and professionalism evident in many of your posts on other threads, I suspect this is your 1st, because you are a formidable, but also confident and calm verbal judo master and sensei who has talked many coaches back from the precipice. I'm starting my 6th (3rd of h.s.--so clearly less experienced than you--so maybe even not competent to comment), but I've also never had to toss a manager. Knock on wood--I know it's going to happen.

 

Don't tell me what to do. I was asking BOB why you didn't let GREG come out and talk to you. I replied "I didn't need GREG to come out to me. I know what he was going to ask me."

 

Obviously, I'm Monday morning quarterbacking here, but your response to his statement would be my only critique. Angry people (coaches, customers, my own bride occasionally over our 18 years of marital bliss) don't ever like to be told that you know what they or someone else was going to do or say before they do or say it. They consider that accusatory, judgmental, presumptuous, and my experience (off the field) is that will generally send them even closer to the precipice from which there is no return.

 

At that point I Ejected him from the game. And as I turned to walk away he started following me. He was yelling at me and calling me a coward and a joke. BOB, my partner, was trying to rodeo him away from me.But JOHN was having none of that. He kept coming after me. And then he finally got around BOB and Said "This is F*#King BullSH*#!"and bumped me on the side. At that point I said "Cursing and bumping me? That will be going in my report as well." At which point he replied, "I don't give a crap about your report. Be a DAM MAN and own your calls. You are a joke and shouldn't be on a baseball field."

 

That's awesome. I even think you kind of baiting him a bit there is awesome as well (for the same reason I don't think your report is too long). I, also, live on the "Left Coast" where "moral ambiguity" is the name of the game, and where the law enforcer will be put on trial and initially suspect even before the evil doer's actions are analyzed. Out here it seems like the state and local associations really want a complete and accurate blow by blow account of what did and did not occur.  If that post ejection behavior had happened to me, I think I'd be smiling inside and thinking, "Thank God for that post-ejection outrageous display--now there's no way in hell this ejection gets reversed on appeal--and no way in hell I get criticized for executing capital punishment upon a public employee."

 

Thanks for the post.  May my 1st be as professionally handled as yours was.

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Oh, that reminds me. I recommend not using "...that's going in my report as well." Once he's ejected, he gets no further response at all. He no longer exists. If he threatens or assaults you, ask someone to call 911, but don't get into it with the ejected coach.

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Oh, that reminds me. I recommend not using "...that's going in my report as well." Once he's ejected, he gets no further response at all. He no longer exists. If he threatens or assaults you, ask someone to call 911, but don't get into it with the ejected coach.

Yeah you are correct. I was hoping it would get him to leave me alone. Hind sight is always 20/20

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Oh, that reminds me. I recommend not using "...that's going in my report as well." Once he's ejected, he gets no further response at all. He no longer exists. If he threatens or assaults you, ask someone to call 911, but don't get into it with the ejected coach.

 

Under NCAA rules where a bump is an automatic suspension, you identify the bump and notify him that it is a suspension. I think in a FED game if I ejected someone and got bumped, I would point it out at the time like Magic did so my partner and the offender heard it. 

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Oh, that reminds me. I recommend not using "...that's going in my report as well." Once he's ejected, he gets no further response at all. He no longer exists. If he threatens or assaults you, ask someone to call 911, but don't get into it with the ejected coach.

True...but it would be hard to stop me from saying, "John, I owned that one and I'm owning your ejection too...now get outta here!"  

 

The other tactic that you can use is to just smile at him.  You know...that "I'm amused by your little temper tantrum," look!  I've done the Jerry Layne treatment and it is fun to just stand there like a statue.  Drives em nuts!

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