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Easy EJ but I don't know how well I handled the situation leading up to it.

 

U18 big boys. Decent-for-fall travel teams. The visiting pitcher had hit a couple of kids, one kid twice I think but was pitching OK...Then in maybe the 4th he and the team kind of fell apart.  The home team kids were up on the plate and he hit three kids in in between solid hits and errors...the kids (and fans) were getting agitated...the 3rd kid kind of flung his bat towards his dugout as he was going to 1st..he was jawing (including "thats bullSH*#") but had his head down..then the pitcher said something and the kid answered...then the 1st baseman took a few steps up, got right in the kids face, and two hand shoved him...EJ'd F3 of course as it was happening and thankfully the b/r didnt throw a punch or come back at all..i think the big EJ helped...I really didnt think the kid was throwing at anyone..certainly nothing upstairs..i dont know when or if i should have warned..also, as the kid was flinging his bat and started jawing, I took a few steps, said knock it off....i dont feel like the bat and the "bullSH*#" was enough to EJ...

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I don't think you could be faulted for either warning or ejecting for the batter's actions. I think this is a case of hindsight being 20-20--and the thing to realize is that sometimes, participants will get themselves tossed in spite of our efforts to quell the conflict. At the point you made the decision to warn, you had no way of knowing that F3 was going to do what he did.

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If there had been a history of hit-by-pitch batters in this game, when this particular batter got hit (even if you did not think it was deliberate) did you hop out behind F2 and get between the B/R and F1 and escort B/R up the first base line? 

 

Did you escort him especially in light of the fact that he flung his bat letting you know that he was "hot under the collar"?  When he started "jawing" were you right next to him and able say quietly to him something like, "that's enough, it wasn't intentional"? 

 

If you are doing that (escorting F1), F3 likely does not even come up and get in the B/R's face because F3 will see that you are there.  And, if you are walking the B/R up the line and F3 decides to interject himself, then you tell F3 to take a hike or you'll eject him.

 

Your ejection was fine after F3 did what he did.  My issue/question is whether or not you used enough preventative umpiring that, if used, would have avoided the situation escalating.  Your post says you only "took a few steps".  If you were standing behind the plate (or in the general vicinity of the plate area) when this happened, then I am going to "ding" you pretty hard on your evaluation.

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i cant argue with any of that  - i do believe i should have been alongside of him and i was not - i was absolutely in the vicinity of the plate and dinged myself on my self evaluation..id really never been in a situation like that

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try to get in the habit of walking out (to give a new ball to the pitcher) but also getting between the players at the same time. You can then tell how far you need to escort the batter by any actions of either/ any of the players.

I always feel like I am late to the party with this technique. But I do know that it works. There have been more than a few times that the Batter saw me and, even though he was hot, slowly started to jog to 1st. Preventative Umpiring, especially in regards to possible fights, is always the way to go. I jump out from behind the dish as quickly as I can on every single hit batter. I don't care if it was a 50mph change up. You never know what is going to set the batter off.

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i cant argue with any of that  - i do believe i should have been alongside of him and i was not - i was absolutely in the vicinity of the plate and dinged myself on my self evaluation..id really never been in a situation like that

Experience is the best teacher...Next time you'll be right there and this won't happen. 

 

In all seriousness, a lot of guys are afraid to eject, period.  So, I give you credit for using your power of ejection to get the game back under control.  Now, next time, you'll be able to stop it before you'll need to use that power.

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i cant argue with any of that  - i do believe i should have been alongside of him and i was not - i was absolutely in the vicinity of the plate and dinged myself on my self evaluation..id really never been in a situation like that

Experience is the best teacher...Next time you'll be right there and this won't happen. 

 

In all seriousness, a lot of guys are afraid to eject, period.  So, I give you credit for using your power of ejection to get the game back under control.  Now, next time, you'll be able to stop it before you'll need to use that power.

A little discussion about "popping out on a HBP". I do this, but I don't remember where or who taught it. It works most of the time but while you are facing the batter and he starts going off you don't see the pitcher's gesture that set him off and your BU doesn't either due to the angle. I haven't seen MLB umps pop out. They let the catcher do that. Thoughts?

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i cant argue with any of that  - i do believe i should have been alongside of him and i was not - i was absolutely in the vicinity of the plate and dinged myself on my self evaluation..id really never been in a situation like that

Experience is the best teacher...Next time you'll be right there and this won't happen. 

 

In all seriousness, a lot of guys are afraid to eject, period.  So, I give you credit for using your power of ejection to get the game back under control.  Now, next time, you'll be able to stop it before you'll need to use that power.

A little discussion about "popping out on a HBP". I do this, but I don't remember where or who taught it. It works most of the time but while you are facing the batter and he starts going off you don't see the pitcher's gesture that set him off and your BU doesn't either due to the angle. I haven't seen MLB umps pop out. They let the catcher do that. Thoughts?

 

 

Can't do that at amateur levels. That's (potentially) leaving one's position to fight. 

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