Catch/No Catch - Fix It?

[zoops]

R2, R3, 1 out.  Shallow fly it to right centerfield, F9 comes in and makes a sliding attempt and in pulling up F4 slides, screening the BU from the sight of the ball as it drops to the ground/glove.  BU calls and signals an out.  R3 and R2 were hanging near their bases but did not tag up because they thought the ball short hopped F9 and both advance safely.  F9 immediately throws to second base and R2 is called out on the appeal for the third out.  

 

Could the BU ask for help on this after the action and if PU says the ball was not caught, how would you fix it?  

[JaxRolo]

It would be hard for PU to see that considering he has to watch both the catch and tag up at third.

[zoops]

True, this actually happened in a 3 man game so U3 would be at third watching the tag.  But nonetheless I think the PU could see it if it was an obvious short hop as he still has to watch the ball even if he has tag responsibility.  

[Replacematt]

True, this actually happened in a 3 man game so U3 would be at third watching the tag.  But nonetheless I think the PU could see it if it was an obvious short hop as he still has to watch the ball even if he has tag responsibility.

If I'm U1 in three-man, I'm not letting myself get screened on this. I have plenty of options to avoid this.

[maven]

 

Could the BU ask for help on this after the action and if PU says the ball was not caught, how would you fix it?  

 

Of course he could ask for help, and should, especially if everyone in the universe but him knows it was not a catch.

 

All codes permit umpires to fix things when they reverse a judgment call. I would certainly score R3 and award the retouch if he didn't retouch. I would also award BR 1B.

 

The problem child is R2. With F9 coming in and sliding, if he got to his feet quickly, I'd leave R2 @ 2B.

[noumpere]

 

 

All codes permit umpires to fix things when they reverse a judgment call.

 

While true, in NCAA this would not be reversed.  From Appendix E:

Also, some calls cannot be reversed without creating larger

problems. An example is a “catch/no catch†with multiple runners on base.

[zoops]

 

True, this actually happened in a 3 man game so U3 would be at third watching the tag.  But nonetheless I think the PU could see it if it was an obvious short hop as he still has to watch the ball even if he has tag responsibility.

If I'm U1 in three-man, I'm not letting myself get screened on this. I have plenty of options to avoid this.

 

Thanks for the insight.

[maven]

 

 

 

All codes permit umpires to fix things when they reverse a judgment call.

 

While true, in NCAA this would not be reversed.  From Appendix E:

Also, some calls cannot be reversed without creating larger

problems. An example is a “catch/no catch†with multiple runners on base.

 

 

And that's fine for NCAA, which presumably has umpires who are more likely to get it right the first time and not need to fix it.