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#1 mjr_2013

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 01:57 PM

https://www.facebook...506189182729450

UA's Facebook is having its friends bid on an All Star Superlight Titanium Alloy Umpire Mask that is valued at $209 on its website.

Bidding ends at midnight, and we are already at $110. I expect to see many of your names appear in the comments section!

I may jump in there as well...

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#2 Stan W.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:30 PM

no thanks.....just dropped my backup Navy Honigs single bar off at the powder coaters for restoration................deciding if ill reinstall the leather doeskin pads or add some team wendy's......

for a lot less $$

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 08:15 PM

I still don't see the benefits of titanium. It doesn't appear to be more protective than steel, plus the bars on the regular all star or honigs powder coated masks are just as good to see out of.

I bought this mask for $150 two years ago and sent it back.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 09:10 PM

Considering making a bid of $155... Top bid right now is $150.

I could sell two masks I have now (not really happy with either anyway), and come back only $50 or $60 in the hole.... Thoughts? What are the pros and cons of the mask?

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 09:39 PM

You have to weigh every mask decision with buying a lightweight, hollow tube steel frame, and loading it with Team Wendy pads. To me, that's the new standard.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:21 PM

Some guy just bid $180. I'm not gonna top that. :P

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:31 PM

I think Ti may be a "cool factor." I love the Nike Ti. I don't think I'd drop that much cake for this particular mask.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:04 AM

You have to weigh every mask decision with buying a lightweight, hollow tube steel frame, and loading it with Team Wendy pads. To me, that's the new standard.

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YEP!! :nod:

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:10 AM

The thing about the All-Star Ti is that it's a blend of metals ......it's not like the Wilson Ti. And, they've tested this rig at over 100mph in their own air cannon. Brad from All-Star has stated that the blend of Ti and other 'secret ingredients' that All-Star uses is the trick to its durability.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:15 AM

But what makes this mask any better than the $85 All-Star I bought earlier this season? The mask itself is 16.5 ounces and has great visibility - how much better can this one possibly be?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:20 AM

But what makes this mask any better than the $85 All-Star I bought earlier this season? The mask itself is 16.5 ounces and has great visibility - how much better can this one possibly be?

Nothing Rich ........ again ...like with a lot of stuff ...it's the "cool factor" ....

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:08 AM

$180 in an auction isn't that great of a deal considering that it's basically 10% off...of what you can get by being a member on this site.

Funny stuff.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:32 AM

The thing about the All-Star Ti is that it's a blend of metals ......it's not like the Wilson Ti. And, they've tested this rig at over 100mph in their own air cannon. Brad from All-Star has stated that the blend of Ti and other 'secret ingredients' that All-Star uses is the trick to its durability.


Don't think any of us really care what the materials are...we want something protective, comfortable, and that provides good vision.

Based on this, I saw no difference between the all star titanium and regular powder coated fm25. That's why I returned it.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:35 AM


The thing about the All-Star Ti is that it's a blend of metals ......it's not like the Wilson Ti. And, they've tested this rig at over 100mph in their own air cannon. Brad from All-Star has stated that the blend of Ti and other 'secret ingredients' that All-Star uses is the trick to its durability.


Don't think any of us really care what the materials are...we want something protective, comfortable, and that provides good vision.

Based on this, I saw no difference between the all star titanium and regular powder coated fm25. That's why I returned it.

just pointing out the differences and some added info some may not be aware of ..........

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:18 AM



The thing about the All-Star Ti is that it's a blend of metals ......it's not like the Wilson Ti. And, they've tested this rig at over 100mph in their own air cannon. Brad from All-Star has stated that the blend of Ti and other 'secret ingredients' that All-Star uses is the trick to its durability.


Don't think any of us really care what the materials are...we want something protective, comfortable, and that provides good vision.

Based on this, I saw no difference between the all star titanium and regular powder coated fm25. That's why I returned it.

just pointing out the differences and some added info some may not be aware of ..........


That's not what I meant. I just meant paying a "premium" price for a titanium mask.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:22 AM




The thing about the All-Star Ti is that it's a blend of metals ......it's not like the Wilson Ti. And, they've tested this rig at over 100mph in their own air cannon. Brad from All-Star has stated that the blend of Ti and other 'secret ingredients' that All-Star uses is the trick to its durability.


Don't think any of us really care what the materials are...we want something protective, comfortable, and that provides good vision.

Based on this, I saw no difference between the all star titanium and regular powder coated fm25. That's why I returned it.

just pointing out the differences and some added info some may not be aware of ..........


That's not what I meant. I just meant paying a "premium" price for a titanium mask.

violent agreement :)

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:25 AM

Grant, it's been very bsaic and limited research, but from what I gathered here frames are liekly made from Grade 5 titanium. Grade 5, also known as Ti6Al4V, Ti-6Al-4V or Ti 6-4, is the most commonly used alloy. It has a chemical composition of 6% aluminium, 4% vanadium, 0.25% (maximum) iron, 0.2% (maximum) oxygen, and the remainder titanium.[5] It is significantly stronger than commercially pure titanium while having the same stiffness and thermal properties. It also has a tensile strength (amount of force per area to break it) of 1000 Mega Pascals. Stainless steel for means of comparrison has a tensile strength of 570 Mega Pascals. Long story short, the titanium is a fair lot stronger, but it is stupid expensive because of the fact Titanium must be melted in an inert atmosphere or in a vacuum otherwise the metal will combust before it reaches the melting point. Hopefully this has helped muddy the waters some

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:02 PM

Funny, I tig welded a piece of Ti at work just to try it. Some special procedures are required to get the proper penetration that will provide the optimum tensile strength (psi). Not much different than welding other alloys, technique wise. Very expensive rods. It is a very strong metallurgical composition, especially considering the weight reduction factor from regular carbon or T1 steel. I'm seriously considering constructing my own mask.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:56 PM

LOL, now that $180 winner has abandoned ship and claimed someone hacked his account. I may have won it with the $155 bid.

UA just couldn't get off easy with a simple facebook auction could they?

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 03:25 AM

Funny, I tig welded a piece of Ti at work just to try it. Some special procedures are required to get the proper penetration that will provide the optimum tensile strength (psi). Not much different than welding other alloys, technique wise. Very expensive rods. It is a very strong metallurgical composition, especially considering the weight reduction factor from regular carbon or T1 steel. I'm seriously considering constructing my own mask.


I've not done much tig welding, only a cursory training in a few of the millwright classes I've taken, it tends to be reserved for the actual welding tradespeople because of the afore mentioned expense. If you have the skills and means to fabricate a mask, while I wouldn't do it myself (as my skill level may or may not be adequate for steel anyhow and certainly not for titanium) I wish you the best in your endevours.




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