Leg Guard Feedback
Posted 15 July 2010 - 03:35 PM
Iíve been overwhelmed with the support and feedback you guys have shown us, so it only seems natural for me to ask for more... if you guys donít mind.
Talk to me about umpire leg guards, please!
What would your dream LGís be like? Where do you need the protection? Where do you want less protection? How can the bottom be designed to work better with your shoes? Do you want toe protection? Low profile? Sizes? What modifications have you made to yours? Do yours tend to twist and turn? Where are they uncomfortable? Proís and cons?
Feel free to post up directly here, PM me, or even shoot me an e-mail (bjurga at all-starsports dot com). I appreciate any info you may have!
Thanks so much,
Posted 15 July 2010 - 04:22 PM
So, in conclusion, my dream shin guard would be a low profile, triple knee shin guard with well placed velcro straps.
Posted 15 July 2010 - 04:54 PM
Velcro straps would be nice. I've seen catchers with some like that.
If you could somehow make some quality guards and shed some weight, I think you'd get a winner.
Posted 15 July 2010 - 10:30 PM
The toe flap is completely useless I wouldn't even offer it.
Side flaps, I like them.
I also prefer the triple knee.
Profile, lower profile they don't need to be the lowest profile, but nobody likes bulkiness
Straps and clasps, I don't care for the steel clasps they end up rusting and squeaking. there has to be a better alternative but better and longer lasting than plastic.
I currently wear the original Douglas West Vest triple knee and really like them their downside is that they are heavy and that they do not breathe at all so I'd want something that is breathable.
I'd also want something which is easy to clean. Maybe even be able to remove the padding and throw it in the washer.
Thats all I have for now.
Posted 16 July 2010 - 12:52 AM
Posted 16 July 2010 - 06:42 AM
I like Warren's idea of the removable padding! NICE! Also, maybe you can incorporate your padding in the MVP System 7 HSMs!?
Your LUG313s got great reviews from MidMoumps blogsite, but they're "white" Why don't you simply take the 313, add a triple knee extention, make them black, add ankle padding (abs) and utilize the System 7 removable padding. AND...come up w/ the nice straps/clasps set up??
And ...size them for different shoes
See the attached mutated picture w/ added ankle padding!
NBSA / NFWB / MHSAA
Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:19 AM
I'll keep you guys up to date the best I can. Things are still in the development process and will likely be through the fall. Good things are worth the wait
Posted 16 July 2010 - 10:07 AM
I'm not Brad, but I doubt it. The 2011 season is only 9 months away, and they're only at the prototype level of development. I'd guess we'll see them in 2012.
Cool !! Brad, when is this going to happen? For 2011?
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 12:21 PM
No, on further thought, that's just silly.
Rawlings made a shin guard a few years back called the Lobster, with both a catcher's and an umpire's model. It had a unique knee protection design, like a lobsters tail, that went from the shin, and curled up over the knee. It's a bit heavy, with all the plates, but provided great protection and sizing.
Some shin guards have a flat section right at the knee cap. Not good, as you want as much deflection as possible. Round off every thing.
The metatarsal flap is cut off of every decent umpire's shin guards. There's no need for it if you're wearing proper plate shoes.
A CoolMax, or similar, lining is a must. Sweaty vinyl is awful.
Wide, velcro straps work great. Throw in a couple of spares when you buy a pair. We'll need them somewhere down the road.
Ankle protection is a bonus. Some mid/high top shoes offer some protection, but it's nice to have that option. A better solution would be if the shoes actually had a plate over the ankle bone, instead of just leather. (Note to self: email Reebok/NB about this for their next redesign). My motorcycle roadracing boots have that.
The less metal parts the better, as they'll rust.
No need to be pretty, as they won't be seen. Your logo on the ankle protector, which just peeks out from the bottom of the pants, would be the best placement. No need for carbon fiber, but if you want to put a little bit on them, that would be the place, as it would look pretty cool. Your new logo, on carbon fiber, peeking out the top of the shirt, the bottom of the pants, and on a throat protector would be pretty damn impressive (and visible).
Posted 16 July 2010 - 01:08 PM
I believe these were the ones Kyle was talking about.
Posted 16 July 2010 - 01:42 PM
Brad, ...see the picture, ...see where the umps hands are positioned? If the top plate doesn't strap down too much, it'll stick up a little and it sort of protects your hands in a Davis stance.
I cant' see the picture very well, and I can't get it to open larger, but it seems like what I was talking about.
And "stick up" may be the wrong phrase. If the top cap goes above the knee when standing and isn't too tight, then the hands can slide under / behind the cap and be a little protected.
Posted 16 July 2010 - 01:57 PM
Those lobster leg guards will be great with my red shirt and I can keep my partner amused the whole game, a two for one special.
Edited by T-Rav, 16 July 2010 - 01:59 PM.
Posted 16 July 2010 - 02:06 PM
Drop to a knee, set this on the ground, and those 9u catchers are not longer a problem. Just be careful when you give your safe signal.
Posted 17 July 2010 - 01:47 AM
I believe these were the ones Kyle was talking about.
Those are the ones. The umpire models don't have the pointless foot protection.
My son has both models, for both applications. He has access to my dizzying array of gear, yet like his Lobsters. They fit better for him because the knee isn't just one spot. Your knee can be anywhere in that flex point. It's a pretty neat idea. He works the Davis, and hides his hand under the top "flap".
They are heavy, and not too nicely lined. They do take a wicked pop, with nothing felt. It's just an idea to run by Brad.
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