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Started by AJtheUMP, Apr 17 2012 11:10 AM

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:10 AM

I was not calling this game.

OBR rules. R3, 2 Outs. Close game.

Uncaught 3rd strike (past ball), Batter stands there looking lost, runner takes off home. Batter gets a clue and runs as catcher flips to the pitcher trying to get the out at home. Runner is.... "SAFE". They throw to first for the third out. Does the run count? :shrug:
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:17 AM

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:24 AM

Day game or night game? You mentioned that it was a close game. How close?



Just kidding...no run. The batter runner did not reach first base before the third out.
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:27 AM

the batter runner did not reach first base before the third out.


At risk of being crucified. The batter/runner must reach 1st before the run scores before the third out?

So same situation but they overthrow first and he goes for second and gets thrown out. The run counts then?
“Baseball is a game where a curve is an optical illusion, a screwball can be a pitch or a person, stealing is legal and you can spit anywhere you like except in the umpire's eye or on the ball.”

“You argue with the umpire because there is nothing else you can do about it.”

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:48 AM

At risk of being crucified. The batter/runner must reach 1st before the run scores before the third out?

So same situation but they overthrow first and he goes for second and gets thrown out. The run counts then?

Don't overthink this - "A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made by the batter-runner before he touches first base."

This is the same as any other play of this type - if it's a "force-type" play (I know, I know, BR to 1st isn't a force play) then no run scores.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:14 PM


the batter runner did not reach first base before the third out.


At risk of being crucified. The batter/runner must reach 1st before the run scores before the third out?

So same situation but they overthrow first and he goes for second and gets thrown out. The run counts then?

Count the run, ...BR reached first.......

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:29 PM

Thank you sirs! It all counts on the BR reaching first! :notworthy: I can always count on you guys!
“Baseball is a game where a curve is an optical illusion, a screwball can be a pitch or a person, stealing is legal and you can spit anywhere you like except in the umpire's eye or on the ball.”

“You argue with the umpire because there is nothing else you can do about it.”

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:22 PM

Thank you sirs! It all counts on the BR reaching first! :notworthy: I can always count on you guys!


More specifically BR being SAFE at First Base.
He can still reach it and then even be safe at second base and the run may not count.
example: BR Missed 1B which is properly appealed and he is called out.
He was never safe at first base so the run can not count.

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