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#1 Thunderheads

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:23 PM

Guys ..
Is getting paid this way taxable? Meaning, will this generate a 1099 from the State?

Thanks..........

Jeff
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:55 PM

Guys ..
Is getting paid this way taxable? Meaning, will this generate a 1099 from the State?

Thanks..........


Not unless the organization has it set up on their own. Does your state pay you for high school games instead of individual schools?

#3 Thunderheads

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:02 PM


Guys ..
Is getting paid this way taxable? Meaning, will this generate a 1099 from the State?

Thanks..........


Not unless the organization has it set up on their own. Does your state pay you for high school games instead of individual schools?

I dont' know ...first year ;)

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:27 PM



Guys ..
Is getting paid this way taxable? Meaning, will this generate a 1099 from the State?

Thanks..........


Not unless the organization has it set up on their own. Does your state pay you for high school games instead of individual schools?

I dont' know ...first year ;)


Matters source and if you go over $600 from any one source who is paying you if you will get a 1099. Refpay is just a tool they use to pay you.

However, I have to put down, technically according to the IRS and most state departments of revenue (or as they call it in VA, taxation, and yes, I know some states don't have income tax, lucky bastards), all income, whether it is on a 1099 or not, is taxable and has to be reported. I am not a tax lawyer or IRS agent, do not play one on TV, did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express, etc., but if you ever do get audited, it could cost more (in time and money) later than just reporting the income now.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:33 PM

There is nothing technical about it and you are supposed to report it. According to a tax lawyer I know real good its far worse to not report the income than it is to overstate the expenses. Its just not worth it. Plus were supposed to be upholding the rules of the game and I dont see how that squares with cheating on your taxes.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:38 PM

There is nothing technical about it and you are supposed to report it. According to a tax lawyer I know real good its far worse to not report the income than it is to overstate the expenses. Its just not worth it. Plus were supposed to be upholding the rules of the game and I dont see how that squares with cheating on your taxes.


It does square. That's how you level the playing field.

Wait. Oh I thought you said " I dont see how that squares with getting cheated on your taxes."

Sigh

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:38 PM

First of all, by being a gear and uniform junkie, while at the same time being drastically underpaid for my work, the expenses are way out of line with the income. So that's the reason I report all of the income. I don't want those ridiculously high expenses to be the red flag. And I don't even deduct all the expenses, because I don't want SWMBO, who doubles as SWDOT (She Who Does Our Taxes) to know how much gear I buy in a year.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:43 PM

I have received 1099s from schools that I did a single game at for $72.
So you can get a 1099 for less than $600.
At $600 they must do it.
Under it is their oprtion.

I get paid thru RefPay for USSSA and they do 1099.

1099 is done by who pays you regardless of how it is paid to you.
Cash, Check, Automatic Transfer.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:49 PM

There is nothing technical about it and you are supposed to report it. According to a tax lawyer I know real good its far worse to not report the income than it is to overstate the expenses. Its just not worth it. Plus were supposed to be upholding the rules of the game and I dont see how that squares with cheating on your taxes.

Because I don't like what the government does with my money :hopmad:
I don't worry about taxes, non are with held and I don't pay anything.
Oh maybe thats because I am so poor.
The expenses of a SWMBO and 3 daughters is all the deductions the IRS allows me to have.

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#10 Kevin Finnerty

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:57 PM

Maybe it's because you're being hypocritical.

You can't profess that this is some great country until it is time to pay your share, and then bemoan its use of that revenue. It's best not to speak out at all.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:09 PM

This is my association's first year with ref pay. Now the schools are paying the association and the association pays us through RefPay. Now I will get 1 1099 from the association whereas I hardly ever got 1099s as I rarely worked at one location enough to generate a 1099,

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:51 PM

Maybe it's because you're being hypocritical.

You can't profess that this is some great country until it is time to pay your share, and then bemoan its use of that revenue. It's best not to speak out at all.


Kevin - No Offense :rose:
I feel I have paid my fair share.
Not only in money but in service.
The First Ammendment also gives me the freedom of speech.
I always found it ironic that you have to pay taxes on money when that money comes from tax money the Federal Government collected.
Isn't the government taxing it twice.
They taxed someone to get it to pay you and then tax you because they paid it to you :smachhead:
Also, at least in California, If you are unemployeed and collect unemployment, the State of California won't tax it, but the Federal Government taxes it. That really helps someone at a time of need.

No Taxation without Representation :hopmad:
:givebeer: or give me death.......... :meditation:

Just wait if you can't afford Health Insurance, ObamaCare will charge you penalties through the IRS.

Sorry but our tax system and the way our government spends money has been broken for sometime.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:00 PM

Your complaints don't match your convenient patriotism and cliche partisanship.

And serving your country in the military is only one way of serving your country. Many of us also serve our country in noble ways without placing ourselves above all others for doing it.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:37 PM

So.......about Refpay......

2014 Game Count:  High School: 43 | AAU: 0 | Pony: 0 | Little League: 2 | UCLA: 2 | Total: 47

2013 Game Count:  High School: 43 | USSSA: 7 | AAU: 30 | Pony: 11Little League: 17 | UCLA: 1Total: 109


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:51 PM

So.......about Refpay......

I love it.
They put the money into RefPay and I get it into my bank generally the next day. :notworthy:

I also have no idea why Mr. Kevin Finnerty is so upset that he would attack me for what I said, no less ever question my Patriotism.
To me it was totally uncalled for.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:47 PM

OK guys, ...that's enough ....we're WAY off the subject.

I have my answer...I just wanted to know .......

Jeff
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:30 PM

Jeff, in summary you claim it all, 1099 or no. :)
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:23 PM


So.......about Refpay......

I love it.
They put the money into RefPay and I get it into my bank generally the next day. :notworthy:

I also have no idea why Mr. Kevin Finnerty is so upset that he would attack me for what I said, no less ever question my Patriotism.
To me it was totally uncalled for.


Attack? You need a better grasp of the word attack. And I didn't question your patriotism. I wondered why such a patriotic guy wouldn't want to pay his share when it came time to support his country.

And your statement was eye-opening and offensive, so I pointed out its hypocrisy. You should either keep your conflicting beliefs to yourself or be prepared to be addressed by those who see the conflict.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:39 PM

I still prefer a check at the plate meeting...which is becoming more rare. RefPay is fine, as I have the money transferred to a RefPay credit card for personal use. Not many schools where I work use it (but slowly gaining popularity), and it varies from 1-3 weeks for those schools who do use it to deposit into my account. As long as I eventually get it, all is good.

Re: reporting to IRS...pretty simple - if you received compensation, be honest and report it.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:14 PM

I feel I have paid my fair share.
Not only in money but in service.


If everyone shared your feelings, the military wouldn't have money to pay those in service.
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