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#21 Thunderheads

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 01:09 PM


Any votes for this "alternate" 3-ball signal?

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 01:28 PM

I like Jerry Crawford's 0-1 count:

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:31 PM

I like Jerry Crawford's 0-1 count:

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Now that's the type of real world example that a new umpire can learn from. Excellent!

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 10:05 PM

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:37 PM


That being said, I use--and love--the heaviest, most durable, most expensive all-steel indicator there is:
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Just how heavy is it... :fuel:


I use this indicator as well. I've never weighed it, but I couldn't believe how heavy it was when I got it in the mail. Let's just say this - if you were to hit a coach in the head with it, he would likely be unconscious. It comes notched, and only goes up to 3 balls, 2 strikes and 2 outs - faster to zero out.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 03:45 PM

I think I found the one your referring to. Is it the correct one.

http://www.ump-attir...oduct_Code=UC5-BC&Category_Code=UMPIRE-INDICATORS&Product_Count=0

grayhawk, do you hold on to it or leave it in your bag?

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 04:16 PM

I hadn't seen that indicator before, I like it. I always liked the heavier feel but they always had the 4 balls and three strikes. I may have to order this.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 05:14 PM



That being said, I use--and love--the heaviest, most durable, most expensive all-steel indicator there is:
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Just how heavy is it... :fuel:


I use this indicator as well. I've never weighed it, but I couldn't believe how heavy it was when I got it in the mail. Let's just say this - if you were to hit a coach in the head with it, he would likely be unconscious. It comes notched, and only goes up to 3 balls, 2 strikes and 2 outs - faster to zero out.


I use it also. It is heavy, hurts your fingers, and will blind you when the sun reflects off of it.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 06:54 PM

My only complaint is the balls and strikes are backwards.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:43 PM

I think I found the one your referring to. Is it the correct one.

http://www.ump-attir...oduct_Code=UC5-BC&Category_Code=UMPIRE-INDICATORS&Product_Count=0

grayhawk, do you hold on to it or leave it in your bag?


I hold onto it. I also use the middle, ring and pinkie to show 3 balls. Not sure why I would keep it in my ball bag - seems like a pain to have to reach in to update it between pitches. With the notches, I don't have to look at it. I know the count most of the time, but if someone asks and I want to refer to it, a quick squeeze of the fingers and I have it. I give the count pretty often, starting with the second pitch of the at-bat all the way to 3-2. I probably give it too often, but it keeps it fresh in my mind and coaches/players rarely have to ask.

Mike, as far as balls and strikes being backwards - I guess it's what you are used to. I know when I first started, it drove me crazy that the cheap indicators showed srtikes and balls in that order when we give the count the opposite. But since I learned with the cheap ones, it would take some doing to use an indicator that was in the reverse order.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 08:22 PM

I am in the same boat. I used one like it for years that had 4 balls, 3 strikes but I liked the feel. I finally went to a three ball/two strike counter and had to retrain myself to use it. I could easily go back. Does the notches hurt your fingers?
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 08:57 PM

I am in the same boat. I used one like it for years that had 4 balls, 3 strikes but I liked the feel. I finally went to a three ball/two strike counter and had to retrain myself to use it. I could easily go back. Does the notches hurt your fingers?


They don't hurt your fingers, but they take some getting used to. The "1" on balls, strikes and outs is kind of sharp, but it makes it easy to "read" it with your fingers. The "2" on balls is unique and the "3" for balls and "2" for strikes feels the same, so it's very clear when the count is full. "0" on both is easy to tell too. It takes a little while to instinctively know the count by feeling it, but when you do, it's a valuable tool.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:38 PM

Or you could look at your indicator. :mellow:

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:10 AM

Or you could look at your indicator. :mellow:

The whole complaint many have with carrying an indicator is guys get enamored with looking at them. I have always advocated notching the wheels so you don't look. This is the first time I have seen one manufactured with notches.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:18 PM

They don't hurt your fingers, but they take some getting used to. The "1" on balls, strikes and outs is kind of sharp, but it makes it easy to "read" it with your fingers. The "2" on balls is unique and the "3" for balls and "2" for strikes feels the same, so it's very clear when the count is full. "0" on both is easy to tell too. It takes a little while to instinctively know the count by feeling it, but when you do, it's a valuable tool.


Can you take photos of how all the numbers are notched? I'd love to try it out myself, but have only seen examples of ones notched only on the zeros.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:39 PM

Look at this link. http://www.ump-attir...PIRE-INDICATORS It is on the Ump-Attire site.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:57 PM


They don't hurt your fingers, but they take some getting used to. The "1" on balls, strikes and outs is kind of sharp, but it makes it easy to "read" it with your fingers. The "2" on balls is unique and the "3" for balls and "2" for strikes feels the same, so it's very clear when the count is full. "0" on both is easy to tell too. It takes a little while to instinctively know the count by feeling it, but when you do, it's a valuable tool.


Can you take photos of how all the numbers are notched? I'd love to try it out myself, but have only seen examples of ones notched only on the zeros.


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Posted 08 February 2012 - 04:38 PM

Oh, if there is another option that I didn't mention, please share it.


little-ring-index (thumb holding down middle)
thumb-index-middle (ring and little held down) - hold your hand at a little outward angle on this one


Ive seen all of the above used

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 08:16 PM

Sometimes, if i'm working at a place where I know the score board is going to be worked properly, I don't even give the count unless I'm asked.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:46 AM

I'm in the minor here I guess.....I use #2 as naturally as breathing.
I'll give #1 a try this season.




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