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#1 cbiesecker

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:08 PM

What's your preferred method for showing a three ball count using the left hand. I've seen it done two ways:

1. middle-ring-little finger combination
2. index-middle-ring finger combination

I've found that it's easier for me to use the middle-ring-little finger combo, as I can hold onto my indicator more easily with my thumb and index finger.

Please note that I didn't ask for the "right" or "proper" method, just your preferred method. ;)
Oh, if there is another option that I didn't mention, please share it.


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:12 PM

What's your preferred method for showing a three ball count using the left hand. I've seen it done two ways:

1. middle-ring-little finger combination

I've found that it's easier for me to use the middle-ring-little finger combo, as I can hold onto my indicator more easily with my thumb and index finger.



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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:15 PM

What's your preferred method for showing a three ball count using the left hand. I've seen it done two ways:

1. middle-ring-little finger combination
2. index-middle-ring finger combination

I've found that it's easier for me to use the middle-ring-little finger combo, as I can hold onto my indicator more easily with my thumb and index finger.

Please note that I didn't ask for the "right" or "proper" method, just your preferred method. ;)
Oh, if there is another option that I didn't mention, please share it.


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:36 PM

No trick question intended, just trying to learn from the U-E community.

Thanks for the feedback. It helps to know that I'm using a method that is used by others.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:22 PM

I used to do #2, but started #1 last year.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:43 PM

I use #1 because thats what they tell us to us.

Have never used #2

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:50 PM

I use the second one. I don.t hold an indicator it is just easier for me.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:59 PM

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:40 PM

I use the the Buckwheat method. I do the " oh-Tay" sign with my left hand. On a side note. I NEVER give a 3-0 count with my 2 hands . These are the following sequences where I give the count :
1-2, 2-1 and 3-2. Now I will give an odd count after a foul ball. If I do show a count for 1,2 or balls only or 1 or 2 strikes only I use only one hand. I am sure my methods will raise some comments.


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 01:20 AM

I am in the number 1 camp. I have never been taught one method over the other, I just can do it effortlessly, two is harder.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 01:30 AM

I was taught a couple years ago to use the index, middle, and pinky fingers (holding indicator between thumb and ring finger. Reasoning behind that was apparently when I was younger, the way I did it then (index, middle, ring) made it look like my fingers were just bunched together.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:34 PM

The thumb actually hold the index finger down much easier than trying to reach over to the pinky. So I use #1.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:48 PM


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Posted 29 January 2012 - 12:49 PM

I'm on record as not carrying an indicator on the bases. Well, I also don't hold one behind the plate. I keep it in a modified pocket in my left Dri-Lo. I reach in after the pitch and turn a wheel. I zero it out, rarely looking at it to do so. It was a process to learn to put it away, stop looking at it and stop depending on it at all. The only reason I have it and actually keep it on the correct numbers throughout the game is to have a tool to prove to myself and others the count or number of outs. That is necessary zero to one, perhaps two times per game. It is a very free feeling to not hold it, and an even better feeling to not really need it at all.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:50 PM

I'm with Kevin on this one...I don't hold an indicator either. Into the ball bag it goes and stays.

The more important question is...how do you give the count?
I have been taught to give the count on the 3rd & 5th pitch in a time at bat...or in a critical situation.

How many folks giving a 3-2 count put up a fist on both right/left hands? How many folks give a "hook'em" horns for the 2 strike signal?
That is one of the first things our group catches and corrects...we don't like the 'Horns arounf here and a fist is not a number...

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 04:10 PM

I agree a fist is not a number.

This is why I simply hold up "three and three" and watch them slink back to the dugout. :angel4:

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:05 PM

That being said, I use--and love--the heaviest, most durable, most expensive all-steel indicator there is:
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Just how heavy is it... :fuel:

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:16 PM

Any votes for this "alternate" 3-ball signal?

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:23 PM

Any votes for this "alternate" 3-ball signal?

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 09:02 PM

Reminds me of the saying from Rocket City Rednecks

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